Posted on 01/05/2015 5:39:04 AM PST by LeoMcNeil
The Democrat Party has moved so far left that there is a vacuum in the middle of the political spectrum, which the Republicans are rushing to fill. A party of centrists has no place for conservatives. If the present paradigm holds we will need a third party to represent the right and move toward a three party system.
This only true under the present paradigm. What must happen is Conservatives must be able to attract voters from the Democrat side of the aisle like Reagan did. This is where the Libertarian Party has some degree of attraction, as it combines the small government philosophy of the conservatives with the liberal social policy of the Democrats. Rand Paul is not treated very well around here, but he may be onto something with the formula that could be successful in building a coalition party.
The writer says that the libs aren’t the RINOs, the conservatives are because libs keep getting nominated. But if you look at the party’s platform, it has been conservative. I love your bus analogy. To take your analogy a bit further, the republican party is like a bus line with conservative destination ABC.
The lib RINOs that keep getting nominated are bus drivers don’t want to take the bus to its proper destination. Instead of ABC, they want the destination to be socialist XYZ. They pretend they are good bus drivers who can get the bus to ABC, but as soon as they get behind the wheel they take the bus where they want it to go.
We need to do a better job screening these bus drivers and we need to kick some them off of the bus. Our destination should never be the same as the democrats/socialists.
Unlike what Mitch McConnell (RINO) and his twisted mind thinks, the people voted republican to oppose Obama and the democrats, not to go along with them. If they wanted get along to go along, they would have voted for the democrats.
The Republican Party was founded as the anti-slavery party.
The Democrats were against big government because they were afraid government power would be used to free their slaves.
They were perfectly fine with the government forcing free states to hunt down escaped slaves and return them.
“Conservatives are the real RINOs”. I’ve been saying this for quite some time now.
I rank Calvin ahead of Reagan on my list of top Presidents. Anyone that fails to recognise Calvin in these types of articles is really missing a great opportunity...
Agreed
Well, I am praying for one.
“but as soon as they get behind the wheel they take the bus where they want it to go.”
Exactly. And, the ones that helped vote them in are sent to the “back of the bus”.
Time to pull the overhead “stop” cord.
If you aren’t going to read the article what’s the point in posting a comment?
We’re supposed to read the articles? Since when?
Progressive Republicans aren’t Democrats posing as Republicans. In reality, they’re holding true to the founding principles of the GOP.
Voting third party guarantees a Democrat will winThat threat has become a nice example of intellectual laziness. I can't say as I blame you, it is "low hanging fruit" and the political right is sloppy-drunk with intellectual laziness.
But it presumes those exploring the possibility of a third or replacement party expect a third-party to win it all instantly. I don't know anyone who expects that.
Why can't we have candidates, registered as republicans, who vote as a bloc of conservatives and caucus tightly together? Sort of like other congressional voting blocs (latino, black, women, whatever). Conservatives are (supposedly) minorities too!
Why can't that conservative voting bloc grow over the election seasons until it reached critical mass and public familiarity *AND THEN* declare a new party? Could that new party and the GOP caucus together for the vast majority of things against the Dems? Why does the gradual replacement of the GOP (a thoroughly tainted brand) seem to be so difficult to most folks? It does not have to be as sudden as flipping a light switch.
I'm just an average idiot and I can think of possibilities like that. There are a bunch of folks far smarter than I that could most assuredly develop even better, sound, reasonable, practicable strategies.
The point being, more and more folks don't see much difference between a RINO winning and a Dem winning. If that is their perception, then saying "voting third party guarantees a dem win" is no longer a threat or at worst, a very minimal threat. If conservatives are serious, they should start striking while the iron is hot. They have a lot of MSM sniping to overcome and start building brand recognition.
Plus, repeating that threat is just following the masses and not truly thinking about realistic, plausible possibilities. And here lately on the GOP side of reality, it is a fair bet that if you follow the masses, the "m" becomes silent (see also: Boehner, McConnell, Graham, et al).
Define conservative, because I'll be damned if I can not on Free Republic that's for sure. This forum can't even agree on a candidate.
Washington’s office vacancy will go up about 900% if there was a flat tax of 7.5%. Government will be lots smaller...
The problem is that there aren’t enough conservative voters to create a sustainable conservative party.
The facts of life are conservative. The majority of voters are conservative. Twice as many self identify as conservative as liberal. Don't believe the commercial/populist hype.
Kennedy is not liberal. He sides with the conservatives a lot of the time.
The facts of life may be conservative, voters might self identify as conservative but that doesn’t mean conservatives are a majority. If conservatives were a majority of voters, Obama wouldn’t have been elected twice and progressives like John McCain and Mitt Romney wouldn’t have won the GOP nomination.
Kennedy is inconsistent. Admittedly, he appears to vote conservative more today than he did during his first 15 years or so on the Supreme Court.
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