Posted on 08/20/2014 7:05:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee
“I agree 100%, and they will also hit Tel Aviv. And an hour later, Mecca and other Muslim cities, capitals and holy sites will be smoking craters.
And that will be the end of Islam”.
I have a difficult time believing it could be that easy.
Waiting for the strike that precedes “the end of Islam” might not be so easy, as it will be a continued twin towers, Ft Hood, Boston Marathon marathon.
Appreciate the follow up. I guess I will be watching while spreading the Gospel of Liberty, designed to save all mankind instead of the Gospel of conquest, slavery, and death.
I heed the warning but I'm afraid that so many are to much like the Athenians of old.
“too much” damn spell check!
Have you read this item I wrote a few years ago?
HOW ISLAMAND THE EVER-PRESENT THREAT IT POSES TO HUMANITYCOULD BE BROUGHT TO AN END IN ONE, SIMPLE STEP
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/023326.html
Matthew Bracken writes:
Your commenter James P. writes:
Muslim refusal to engage in rational debate, engage in self-examination, or permit humorous attacks on their religion are not weaknesses. They are mighty strengths! They are not Islams brittle glass jaw; they are its bulging biceps! These attributes generate fear in their enemies, and cause their enemies to seek to avoid provoking Muslims and to appease Muslims when they are angry.
I agree that these attributes of Islam have proven to be a great advantage to it as a war religion for 1,400 years. However, we are now seeing before our eyes a paradigm shift that may bring about the end of Islam in the present generation. Samuel Huntington spoke of Islams bloody borders, but until the modern era, the true scope of the horror was only realized by the victims living on those borders who were under constant attack (the ultimately unsuccessful and now condemned counter-jihad we call the Crusades being the notable exception). Five hundred or a thousand miles from Islams bloody borders, it was always difficult to make people understand the existential threat Islam presented to all non-Muslim societies. After its early rampant break out period, when seen in the context of each generation, Islam appeared to be merely biting off one more small slice of territory at a time. And on it marched, generation after generation, always moving forward, rarely being pushed back, impervious to self-examination or reformation, as deadly in our modern times as it was at the beginning.
That is changing now, because today the entire world sees Islams true face revealed when Muslims go into these insane rages after perceived insults to Mohammed. Their ingrained lack of introspection means that Muslims can easily be provoked into going beyond the stealth-mode they normally follow beyond Islams bloody borders, waking up the world to the existential threat Islam poses to all non-Muslim societies. Down the centuries, the West has often had appeasers and accommodationists as leaders, men who were willing to cut short-term local deals that over time always led to incremental Islamic advances. And these weak Western leaders were the only men who mattered, era by era. Today, as a contrast, average citizens around the world are beginning to understand how to push Islams automatic rage buttons, and this changes the former equation in a fundamental way. As you mentioned, videos released by lone, non-state actors at the right time could be used to torpedo the next sell-out by Western appeasers, such as over the inclusion of Turkey in the EU.
Another fundamental difference today from prior centuries is that millions of people understand that Islam has another tremendous weakness, another glass jaw, and that is their worship of the black moon rock in Mecca as Islams literal god-head. This black rock enshrined in the corner of the Kaaba is essential to Islam in a way that nothing in Judaism or Christianity is. The Cross lives in the hearts of Christians, and Christianity would not be destroyed if Jerusalem or Rome were destroyed. But that physical black rock in Mecca is the hard drive of Islam. Muslims believe that it contains all of the sins of all of the observant followers of the Prophet since the time of Mohammed, as sort of an Islamic Doomsday Book. Two of the Five Pillars of Islam involve the physical worship of that black moon rock. One is the Hajj to Mecca where pilgrims walk in a circle around the rock, and the other is the five-time daily prayer performed in its direction. (The other three pillars are ephemeral: the Shahada conversion prayer, the tithe, and observing Ramadan.) A religion that is impervious to change or self-examination (which James P says are strengths) cannot suddenly be reduced to The Three Pillars of Islam after 1,400 unbroken years as the Five Pillars of Islam.
In ancient Islamic history, the black moon rock was once stolen by a competing tribe, but after a brief time it was found. Islam carried on because nobody outside of a very small circle of imams even knew the rock was missing before it was replaced. But if Mecca was suddenly turned into a giant crater, there would be no way to conceal the fact from the world at large, including every Muslim. Today, observant Muslims believe that if every infidel nation fired every rocket and bomb at Mecca, Allah would turn them back or stop them in mid-flight. It is impossible for observant Muslims to believe that the Infidels could destroy the Kaaba, which is literally the physical manifestation on earth of their greatest God.
The Crusaders were only able to retake Jerusalem for a short time, and never got close to taking Mecca (assuming that they even understood its importance to Islam and had some notion of taking it). It was not within their power to threaten this source of Islams power and mystique, even if they had desired to do so. In all eras before modern mass communications, even if a Crusader commando team had made it to Mecca, it would not have changed anything, because the leading Muslim clerics would have replaced the black rock and rebuilt the Kaaba, and nobody would have ever known, in the same way that nobody at the time knew that the black rock had once been stolen and carried off.
Today, the entire world would know in the same hour that Mecca had been destroyed. This would destroy Islam as surely as the Aztec and Inca religions and empires were destroyed when the Spanish conquistadors captured and executed the living Gods at the center of the Aztec and Inca belief systems. If there is no Mecca, there is no Islam. There can be no Islam with three instead of five pillars, the two physical pillars having been destroyed by the Gods of the Infidels. Allahu Akbar means our God is greatest. This cannot be so if the Infidel God destroys the physical god-head of Islam, which is the black moon rock at the Kaaba in Mecca.
I have no expectation that any American president would order the destruction of Mecca, even if American cities had been destroyed with nuclear bombs sent from a Muslim country with a clear return address. However, not all nations are as hamstrung by self-doubt and political correctness as we are. Russia, India, and Israel, I am sure, have Mecca on their target list. If Moscow, New Delhi, or Tel Aviv were destroyed by an Islamic bomb, I believe that Mecca would be wiped off the planet Earth the same day, even the same hour.
And that would spell the end of Islam, after its unparalleled 1,400-year reign of terror.
No Mecca, no Islam, as long as the world witnesses Meccas physical annihilation. There will follow a period of madness, with many Muslims committing mass suicide and mass terror, but more of them will become atheists or convert to Christianity (the stronger horse). In all cases, Islam as we know it will be finished. After fourteen centuries, the steady mantra Our God is greatest cannot become We used to believe that our God was the greatest, but it was proven to be weaker, if not a fraud. The glass jaw of Islam, its inability to self-examine or reform in any way, will prove to be its Achilles heel. The 1,400-year run of murder and madness will at last come to an end. After sixty generations, we may be the one to witness its ultimate destruction and collapse.
God willing.
I think that events will soon force a very cold, harsh view of Islam. Our actions in Syria will not go unanswered. Painfully.
Our inaction would bring just as much painful reaction
It’s inevitable. Any spark will suffice. Almost exactly 100 years after another inevitable world war began.
Thanks for including your part of the link in 125 as part of 126. Good read, and it would be most interesting to see the demise of Islam, but at some risk of Western cities to the necessary nuclear attack.
I wonder what Islamic thought might be on the necessity of going that route versus a continuation of the present attacks that have proven so successful on a PC basis.
IOW these really aren’t attacks by muslim’s, consider workplace violence at Ft Hood, and the accusation that our own government brought down the twin towers. Islam barely gets a mention. The Boston Marathon bombing seems more focused on the two brothers being Russian, than their Islamic roots, anything not to poke the bear. PC is a very dangerous way of life.
Maybe I’m dismissing the idea that if Islamists have a nuclear capability they will use it, where we are, if anything reluctant even after the attack on us that you believe would spell the end of Islam.
Thanks for all you do to preserve our way of life, and awaken the masses to threats to our Liberty.
Thanks Travis...
M4L
“Proper subjugation of Islam, as you have alluded periodically, requires (among other things) that Mecca and Medina be nuked until they glow in the daylight, to demonstrate that Allah has no power over the infidels.”
+1
“There is almost no way to protect against it...”
Decentralization on a wide scale is the best bet. When power generation, water delivery, and other vital services are concentrated they are much more vulnerable to severe disruption.
The old PBS series ‘Connections’ did a great job of illustrating how the technologies that we embrace can also make us vulnerable. If we want to defend ourselves against terrorism we will have to disperse our essential services.
William Lind used to write on 4th Generation warfare and how exposed we are to its tactics. If you are self sufficient like the Amish or maybe hillbillies you might be fine but most Americans would be in serious trouble.
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“We won WW2 after fire bombing and nuking German and Japanese cities. After the Islamic State demonstrates that they are willing to cause mass-murder and mayhem in Europe and the USA, we will return to that attitude toward winning wars”
That is the only method. WWII was over after turning hundreds of thousands of civilians into ash in short order. When you want to be king, but end up you can only be the king of nothing, you stop your bullying. Even worked on Ralph Kramdem.
These maniacs have the stones to attack civilians, but our sissified tolerant leadership and the MSM cannot bear a counter attack by US that endangers the civilians’ skirts and baby buggies they hide behind.
Massive, complete, no stone upon another stone, destruction of one Islamic city after another is the antibiotic that needs exercised until the bug is eradicated. That could take a hundred years or so, financed by what used to be welfare benefits.
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