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The One Question About Ebola That Nobody Can Seem To Answer
The American Dream ^ | 08/13/2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 08/13/2014 5:52:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/13/2014 5:52:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Because they are living and working in an area of outbreak, in close contact with victims AND ASSYMPTOMATIC CARRIERS.


2 posted on 08/13/2014 5:55:18 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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"Health officials in North Carolina said on Sunday they will require missionaries and others coming home after working with people infected with Ebola in Africa to be placed in quarantine."

Every person returning from West Africa should be placed in 21 day quarantine. Better yet, ban travel from those countries.

3 posted on 08/13/2014 5:55:25 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: SeekAndFind
I think a geneticist from eastern Europe spliced a human gene into the Ebola virus DNA...oops that was on the Last Ship
4 posted on 08/13/2014 5:55:58 AM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am convinced one of the reasons so many healthcare workers are getting it in Africa is because they are washing and re-using the gloves, isolation garb, syringes, etc. All that stuff should be burned after initial use.

MRS. AV


5 posted on 08/13/2014 5:58:38 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit (http://www.cafepress.com/aroostookbeauty/358829)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping...


6 posted on 08/13/2014 5:58:47 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Atomic Vomit

You would be correct.


7 posted on 08/13/2014 6:00:43 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Eeeee-bolllll-aaaaaa ping!

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

8 posted on 08/13/2014 6:00:43 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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You’re right. Anybody who has ever seen the inside of a third world hospital knows why so many health care workers are getting infected.


9 posted on 08/13/2014 6:02:43 AM PDT by ladyjane
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That would make sense except in the last many ebola outbreaks almost no healthcare people were infected.

Same third world hospitals and likely to be less helpful PP equipment.

You have to tease out the factors - cause and effect are not always so easy to call.

This is the 6th strain and each strain has had different characteristics.

10 posted on 08/13/2014 6:10:26 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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How in the world is it possible that more than 170 health workers have been infected by the Ebola virus?

Because their infection does not fit the 0bama regime's narrative that serves as an excuse for bringing ebola to America.

11 posted on 08/13/2014 6:11:18 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want a Speaker who'll stick that pen and phone where no one but Reggie Love can find it!)
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Typically people don’t go to the doctor until they feel ill. At this point with ebola the patient is already infectious. Medical personnel would have to wear protective clothing to see every patient, changing it each time a new one is seen.


12 posted on 08/13/2014 6:15:58 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: SeekAndFind

I have never had a doubt it is airborne. The government is, and always has been, a liar. I also think that the ability to catch AIDS was downplayed to prevent homos from being quarantined and impeding their agenda.


13 posted on 08/13/2014 6:17:08 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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The airports are still open.

Therefore, the rest of the “all-out response” is obviously nonsense.

A week ago, they could have closed the airports in 3 countries + Bamako. Now, if the Rwanda story is true, the scope will have to be much larger. If JNB is still receiving flights from the hot zone, this could turn into a disaster of unimaginable scale.


14 posted on 08/13/2014 6:19:47 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“Better yet, ban travel from those countries.”

It must be done, it should have already been done. I heard that some countries in Africa are doing this. We should let no one enter from that region.


15 posted on 08/13/2014 6:20:54 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Resolute Conservative

With an agenda of depopulating the world for sustainable living standards, one could suspect that Ebola could be their new best friend.


16 posted on 08/13/2014 6:22:07 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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This is a long video but it’s a NOVA episode on ebola.

Check out the obviously 3rd world hospital and the garb the medical people are wearing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlLuS08A8TQ

Almost none of the medicos got it.


17 posted on 08/13/2014 6:24:47 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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Part of the problem is that using the phrase "close contact" makes people think of sexual contact. While that will transmit the virus, the level of contact required to transmit the virus from one person to another is not nearly so intimate. Bodily fluids which carry a sufficient virus load to infect others include saliva, sweat, and tears, not just feces, urine, semen, vaginal secretions and blood.

Because the virus can survive on surfaces for hours, if not days, the possibility of infection exists without even seeing the infected person.

Is this aspect being downplayed? You betcha.

Why?

Economics.

Panic avoidance: Most of the people who have contracted the virus had physical contact with someone infected or contaminated materials, commonly in a clinical or family setting.

It is not well documented how little contact with infected people or contaminated surfaces is sufficient to transmit the disease, because greater levels of contact have been either documented or assumed.

Many medical supplies Americans would simply discard in biohazard bags to be burned are washed and re-used there, because they are in short supply.

While clinicians, once aware of the possibility of Ebola in the US might be better prepared and equipped to remain uninfected, this is a level 4 biohazard--worthy of the 'space suit-independant air supply' regimen.

If it pops up in the ER somewhere, there is a solid chance someone will get infected, and by the time the risk is realized, they may have passed it on (incubation takes from 2 to 21 days, depending on the individual and the initial viral load).

We haven't even started to go into the possibility of infection from contaminated surfaces, but the possibilities are almost unimaginable in an environment where there are points of common contact virtually everywhere--from handrails to door knobs, counters, ATM keypads, gas pumps, etc...

The trace smear of blood or sweat on any surface might be enough to kill you, because as clean and germ conscious as we think we are, people have become lax about hygiene. Touch the counter, rub your eye, and you could be infected--that dangerous.

Now imagine the effect of people realizing that on shopping, dining out, public transportation, and you begin to get the possible effects, not only on the population, but the economic spasms which could accompany an outbreak.

18 posted on 08/13/2014 6:25:21 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because the incubation period is 20 days or so. Most of them had no idea what they were treating until they were already infected.

This is pretty common in these type of outbreaks.


19 posted on 08/13/2014 6:29:01 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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Generally speaking, you cannot get it from sitting in a room with someone infected. That means it’s not generally transmitted by being in short term proximity. THAT is what airborne transmission means.

You sit across from someone coughing or thrashing about on the floor, tossing tiny liquid into the air...you could get it. But that is “close contact.”

I know it sounds like splitting hairs. But, if it was truly airborne, it would have travelled widely with a lot more deaths.


20 posted on 08/13/2014 6:34:47 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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