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How Hobby Lobby Undermines All Americans' Freedoms (They're flipping their lids)
Lincoln Mitchell blog ^ | July 6, 2014 | Lincoln Mitchell

Posted on 07/06/2014 5:32:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

they can’t stop women from buying them themselves. they are hardly banned from using them by their employer.

they just aren’t going to pay for them.

tyranny is being forced into a contract you don’t want to be in and don’t agree with.


21 posted on 07/06/2014 5:56:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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"It is now legal for corporations to deny workers important medical services . . . "

If the author means that it is now legal for corporations not to PAY for SOME medical services, as was the case for 99% of our nation's history, he is correct. So "now legal" is very misleading. It was, until two years ago, legal, and always had been.
22 posted on 07/06/2014 5:57:18 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://pjmedia.com/blog/obamacares-muslim-exemption/


23 posted on 07/06/2014 5:58:15 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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To: econjack
Sometimes, authors of crap like this come to FR to see the comments. I hope the author sees the comments.

No-one is buying it. Lead balloon.

/johnny

24 posted on 07/06/2014 5:59:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1f3qTt1YDk

How Does the Pill Kill Women?


25 posted on 07/06/2014 6:01:32 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a textbook example of how difficult it is to reason with liberals. First the gov. forces a business to provide some sort of healthcare for its workers. Then it tells the company it must provide every kind of “healthcare” including killing children. The company must obey the dictates of Big Government. If they do not help an employee kill their child, by liberal “logic” they are denying healthcare. Sure sounds logical and constitutional to me. (snicker)


26 posted on 07/06/2014 6:04:32 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: old curmudgeon; oldbrowser; Ray76; TribalPrincess2U; Army Air Corps; E. Pluribus Unum; ...

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27 posted on 07/06/2014 6:04:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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The leftists are freaking out because the supremes based their decision on the duly passed and enacted Religious Freedom Restoration Act from 1993 - settled law baby!

Hopefully this ruling will prevent any more cake makers being forced to make Adam and Steve wedding cakes.


28 posted on 07/06/2014 6:04:38 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Army Air Corps

“Basic common sense is not a strong point with these gits.”

So very true.


29 posted on 07/06/2014 6:04:58 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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“The Hobby Lobby ruling may at first seem like a victory for the minority of Americans who think that both abortion and contraception should be illegal”

This is how the argument is one.

“If it truly is a “minority of Americans” Hobby Lobby’s business will soon drop like a stone and they will be gone. If in fact the overwhelming majority of people ARE actually moral and sane, then I guess their business will do just fine.

Why don’t we let the marketplace decide.”


30 posted on 07/06/2014 6:05:26 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name (\w)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And I have yet to see an employer willing to buy me the gun I have an actual constitutionally named right to.


31 posted on 07/06/2014 6:06:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

I think you meant “won” but I get what you mean.


32 posted on 07/06/2014 6:06:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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Another moron gets it wrong. Asking you to pay for something yourself is not denying you to have it.


33 posted on 07/06/2014 6:07:02 PM PDT by Dave911
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I frequently think faster than I can type!


34 posted on 07/06/2014 6:07:41 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name (\w)
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To: cripplecreek

I know, what up with that? Actually, I’ve had three employers buy me guns, but two out of three wanted them back when I left.


35 posted on 07/06/2014 6:08:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We may have found the missing Linc!


36 posted on 07/06/2014 6:08:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: Ray76
"access;

Next it will be "free" food. The government will demand that businesses provide free lunches for its workers. If the businesses refuse and say it is not responsible for feeding its employess, by liberal logic it will be denying food and sustenance to the workers. Since people can't survive without food, supplying "free" food will be seen as the same as supplying healthcare. That's lib "logic" for your.

37 posted on 07/06/2014 6:09:06 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s a good one! Bookmarked!


38 posted on 07/06/2014 6:11:06 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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"The Hobby Lobby decision is about women's health care and individual freedom, but it also another sign of the consolidation of power by big corporations in the US [emphasis added]."

The Constitution's Clause 8 of Section 8 of Article I grants Congress the power to reward inventors and authors with temporary monoply power with respect to benefitting from their intellectual property.

Clause 8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

But note that Section 8 does not include language which prohibits citizens from enjoying their other privileges and immunities while also enjoying their monopoly power. So Section 8 is constitutional evidence, imo, that citizens can enjoy their constitutionally enumerated pretections which can also include corporate power.

As a side note to this post, I noticed what appears to be a discrepancy in Hobby Lobby's corporate definition. While one source is calling Hobby Lobby a franchise, Hobby Lobby web site seems to be claiming that it is not a franchise.

What am I overlooking?

39 posted on 07/06/2014 6:12:34 PM PDT by Amendment10
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And the distortions of the marketplace continue. How many people remember the history behind employer-provided health insurance? Much of the push can be traced to the federal wage controls imposed during World War II. To compete in the labor market, companies started bundling health insurance as a lure. The wage controls were lifted after the War, but the practice of bundling health insurance continues.

Tax law continues and aggravates this distortion, by allowing companies and not individuals to deduct insurance expenses.

ObamaCare did nothing to correct this distortion.

40 posted on 07/06/2014 6:14:03 PM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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