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How I Learned to Hate Robert E. Lee (Compares Tea Party to pro-slavery expansion CSA fire-eaters)
Yahoo! News / The Daily Beast ^ | January 21, 2014 | Christopher Dickey

Posted on 06/22/2014 1:52:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: patriot08
Sherman was evil and heartless. He should have been hung for war crimes.

War is hell, as someone once said.

No answer to my World War II question?

81 posted on 06/22/2014 5:30:55 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: CatherineofAragon
Lee created the Confederacy?

Forget it. He's rolling.

82 posted on 06/22/2014 6:02:50 PM PDT by Brass Lamp
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To: Brass Lamp
"Forget it. He's rolling."

LOL...

84 posted on 06/22/2014 6:15:21 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

“But you go ahead and idolize a man who created the Confederate States of America and lost it.”


Lee created the Confederacy? Wow, everything I’ve learned must be wrong, then. Can you give details as to how he did this?

Hey thanks for informing me, not. I learned sooo much from you.

Have a good night now.


85 posted on 06/22/2014 6:27:54 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Hulka

Thanks Hulka. I did some research and learned Lincoln thought highly of Lee and your point is right which is also why the Founders gave state senates the power to elect Senators.


86 posted on 06/22/2014 6:31:27 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: DoodleDawg



That's not a fair comparison.

Sherman was a mass murderer of innocents, his own fellow Americans, a mass murderer of innocent women and children..when there was no need- except to sate the blood thirstiness of a psychopathic killer.

Sherman himself admitted after the war that he was taught at West Point that he could be hanged for the things he did. But in war the victors always write the history and are never punished for war crimes, no matter how heinous. Only the defeated suffer that fate.

Let me ask you again; if the commander of US forces in Iraq ordered his unit to march across the nation and burn every building they come across, strip the land clean of any source of food or supplies, destroy any and all livestock they come across and loot and rape, what would you think of him? War criminal, perhaps? That’s exactly what Sherman did, yet he’s considered a hero.

Sherman was a psychopath who mass murdered his own fellow Americans, raped, looted and destroyed all in his bloody march to the sea- including innocent animals by the thousands and thousands.

He should have been hung for crimes against humanity. But I'm sure he's roasting in Hell for his heinous crimes.

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87 posted on 06/22/2014 6:36:12 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: equalator
on antique roadshow the Confederate memorabilia always goes for ten times the union crap. who wants that union filth?

there's a lot more union stuff around, hence the lower price...

88 posted on 06/22/2014 6:46:02 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You are a poosy. (Author)


89 posted on 06/22/2014 6:46:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Exactly which “states rights” did the Buchanan Administration violate so badly that secession was the only answer?


90 posted on 06/22/2014 7:09:13 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: RginTN

To compare Lee to Benedict Arnold only shows your lack of class.


91 posted on 06/22/2014 7:12:20 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: bd476

Which taxes?


92 posted on 06/22/2014 7:18:24 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: equalator

This is true. From what I have seen at most military antique and memorabilia shows, Confederate military items generally sell at higher prices than Union military items. But explain why then, at these type of shows, Nazi items generally sell for higher prices than military items of Soviet, British, or American origin.


93 posted on 06/22/2014 7:36:41 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: X Fretensis

Higher price being indicative of demand, the answer could be several things. It could be that the supply is more limited. Or, it could be that the notoriety of the entity behind the military collectibles and memorabilia is driving higher demand somehow, despite supply not being more limited.

I suspect supply is not more limited by comparison in the instance of military collectibles and memorabilia from Nazi era Germany. They did understand the usefulness of good design and definitely put it to work for them, for propaganda purposes I suppose. Then, there’s the forbidden fruit aspect, it’s a little creepy therefore more people find it desirable in a perverse way.

Confederate collectibles and memorabilia I suspect are limited in supply in comparison to Union. There’s the whole lost cause thing and a degree of romanticization, there’s a somewhat captive audience in the descendants of Confederate soldiers wanting specific items, and then there’s a great deal of historic international interest as well. There was more variability and visual interest among the various states of the Confederacy in comparison to Union states, so there’s that. The Confederates were the exception rather than the rule and represent a way of life that has largely vanished. It’s more valued than what are essentially just old US military items for these reasons.


94 posted on 06/22/2014 7:49:10 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Bttt


95 posted on 06/22/2014 9:08:31 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: ohioman

Wow, you’re boring as hell.


96 posted on 06/22/2014 10:14:16 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: patriot08
That's not a fair comparison.

Why not?

Sherman was a mass murderer of innocents, his own fellow Americans, a mass murderer of innocent women and children..when there was no need- except to sate the blood thirstiness of a psychopathic killer.

Mouth-foaming hyperbole aside, so were Hap Arnold, Arthur Harris, and Curtis Lemay. They deliberately targeted civilians of the countries that were engaged in war against the United States. They bombed cities to the ground, fire-bombed them in some cases. Their acts were just as deliberate as the actions you attribute to Sherman were and were responsible for hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian dead. They had no remorse for their actions; it was war and in war you win in part by destroying your enemies capacity to wage war and the willingness of their people to wage it. So by your own definition the commanders of the allied air forces were filled with blood thirsty psychopathic killers.

Sherman himself admitted after the war that he was taught at West Point that he could be hanged for the things he did.

I would be very interested in seeing that quote.

Let me ask you again; if the commander of US forces in Iraq ordered his unit to march across the nation and burn every building they come across, strip the land clean of any source of food or supplies, destroy any and all livestock they come across and loot and rape, what would you think of him?

Now who's resorting to unfair comparisons?

97 posted on 06/23/2014 4:06:18 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: cripplecreek

“...Lee was a fine honorable American.”

1) Lee was an honorable man, but the word ‘honor’ expressed a different concept than it does today.

2) Lee considered himself a Virginian before American.


98 posted on 06/23/2014 4:30:22 AM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: morphing libertarian

“Since the writing of the constitution the south was worried about slaves having full rights. Look at how they were only counted as a fraction from the beginning.”

Actually, the South WANTED slaves to be fully counted because by doing so this would give the South more representatives in the House.

The number of House representatives is based on the population of a state, and the South had many slaves and wanted the slaves to be counted as full persons so they would then be added to the total population count and generate more House representatives, thereby giving the slave-holding states more power.

The North wanted to limit the influence of the southern slave-holding states and not count fully the slave population, hence the 3/5th compromise.


99 posted on 06/23/2014 7:25:19 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: RginTN
"Hey thanks for informing me, not. I learned sooo much from you"

How old are you? 14?

I'm waiting for you to educate us on how Lee "created" the Confederacy. Can you tell us about it? Details, please.

100 posted on 06/23/2014 7:34:20 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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