Posted on 05/19/2014 6:06:36 AM PDT by HammerT
What do you call posting that excerpt?
Student On Arapahoe School Shooter: “Very Proud Of Being A Socialist”
The gunman responsible for Friday's shooting at Arapahoe High School in Colorado is being described as a “socialist” by his fellow students.
“He was friendly enough. Very proud of being a socialist. He was very outspoken on his political views,” student Angie Mock said. “To him, it just meant economic — more economic equality.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/12/14/student_on_arapahoe_school_shooter_very_proud_of_being_a_socialist.html
I don’t believe that was one of your five originally listed.
You said the parents of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were registered democrats and progressive liberals. I'm asking for some kind of citation for this claim. An odd claim considering Harris' father was retired airforce and the district they grew up in was at the time fairly conservative.
As far as rebelling is concerned, Eric Harris actually tried to follow his father's footsteps by enlisting in the miltary. He was turned down by the USMC due to SSRI medication he had been taking.
If you're going to claim to know the voting registrations and personal politics of the parents of these killers, then back this claim up with something, anything.
Are you aware that voter registration list are of public record?
Why are you arguing with me on this?
What is your agenda here?
So?
What is your point here?
Is it that you desperately want to dismiss that example because it strikes at the heart of your agenda?
I am without agenda on this issue.
Other than the commonsense one that if I post a claim that five shootings were committed by leftists/liberals/Democrats, I should expect to post evidence that my claim is accurate.
When a person makes a claim that turns out to be untrue, it weakens not only his own credibility, but also that of the cause he claims to be supporting.
So I respectfully wish that conservatives only make arguments that are based in truth. And if they are true, you should be able to demonstrate/document that truth. Or you really shouldn’t make the claim to begin with.
Let’s leave the “fake but accurate” arguments to liberals.
I am without agenda on this issue.
Sure doesn’t sound like it to me – why are you obsessing about this?
Other than the commonsense one that if I post a claim that five shootings were committed by leftists/liberals/Democrats, I should expect to post evidence that my claim is accurate.
As I said – I already posted information on that score.
When a person makes a claim that turns out to be untrue, it weakens not only his own credibility, but also that of the cause he claims to be supporting.
Hmm where did you get that charge from?
What information do you have that contradicts the information in that excerpt?
So I respectfully wish that conservatives only make arguments that are based in truth. And if they are true, you should be able to demonstrate/document that truth. Or you really shouldn’t make the claim to begin with.
So I take it you’re not Conservative?
Let’s leave the “fake but accurate” arguments to liberals.
“Liberals” - most so-called “Liberals” these days are really of a socialist bent.
Reading comprehension challenged, are we?
I want the claims made by conservatives to be true, and able to be proven true, because it discredits all conservatives when some (claiming to be) conservatives make statements later shown to be untrue. Or even statements that cannot be demonstrated to be true.
If I weren’t conservative, I wouldn’t care if conservatives and conservatism were discredited. In fact, I might very well prefer it.
BTW, I made no claims that anything you’ve said is untrue, though I did express skepticism that a weirdo loner like Adam Lanza was politically involved. I’ve simply asked you to document that what you’ve said is the truth.
As for my not being conservative, there are some tens of thousands of posts here that I’ve made in the last 8 years. Don’t know exactly how many, because the counter seems to have disappeared. You’re certainly welcome to look through them to “prove” my lack of conservatism.
Have fun! :)
I want the claims made by conservatives to be true, and able to be proven true, because it discredits all conservatives when some (claiming to be) conservatives make statements later shown to be untrue. Or even statements that cannot be demonstrated to be true.
And yet you said that
I am without agenda on this issue.
Which way is it?
Sherman Logan: "When a person makes a claim that turns out to be untrue,"
Sherman Logan "BTW, I made no claims that anything you’ve said is untrue,"
Another contradiction on your part. Or are you going to try and wiggle on of that with some professional hair splitting?
Have fun! :)
If I recall correctly, that was a different James Holmes. Not the shooter, who was by all accounts just a nutcase, not a political nutcase.
Yep. You could find my name on a voter registration list as well. It won't tell you how I voted. If you have some proof that these white, married, middle-aged, middle-class suburbanite parents from Tom Tancredo's congressional district are registered Democrats and progressive liberals, then by all means indulge me on how you came to this conclusion.
Why are you arguing with me on this?
What, am I supposed to just accept your thesis on this absent of any evidence because it sounds good? Doesn't work that way.
What is your agenda here?
The truth. What's yours?
Honestly, I don't know how the Klebold and Harris parents voted, if they voted at all. I don't know what their political beliefs are. They've given few media interviews. I do know that these parents were, by all accounts, good people, good neighbors, good friends, and good co-workers and that despite raising two killers, they raised other children who turned out normal and well-adjusted.
Personally, I think it's silly to try to ascribe politics and political motivations to every senseless act of mass murder. Sometimes people are just plain crazy.
IIRC, ABC originally pegged a Tea Party member as being the shooter.
What, am I supposed to just accept your thesis on this absent of any evidence because it sounds good? Doesn't work that way.
Well, let’s hear some evidence to the contrary then.
The truth. What's yours?
Same thing, what ‘truth’ have you contributed?
If they had been on the Right, is there any doubt in your minds that the Commie-left Media wouldn’t of made sure EVERYONE knew it?
Take the example of a Politician that is caught doing something illegally – generally if it’s a Dem the game becomes “Name that Party”.
But if it’s a Republican or such, they usually make sure that information is out there for public consumption.
In the example I posted on the Student On Arapahoe School Shooter the word is he was: “Very Proud Of Being A Socialist”
The gunman responsible for Friday's shooting at Arapahoe High School in Colorado is being described as a “socialist” by his fellow students.
“He was friendly enough. Very proud of being a socialist. He was very outspoken on his political views,” student Angie Mock said. “To him, it just meant economic — more economic equality.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/12/14/student_on_arapahoe_school_shooter_very_proud_of_being_a_socialist.html
In some cases, that information was edited out of the reports.
I'm not the one making these claims. You are. If I were making such a claim as "so and so are liberal progressives" I would provide evidence. You chose not to and now you're getting defensive at being called out about it.
I can see where this conversation is heading so I will simply say, best of luck to you.
What exactly do you want from me?
Do you harangue everyone who posts an article here on the same issues?
I actually posted something – whether or not it meets your evidentiary standards is beside the point, what have you posted to the contrary?
Edit:
You’re one of those folks who likes to argue just to argue.
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