Combating the "No one Wants to Ban Guns Lie"

Gun Watch ^ | 29 November, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

Most anti-rights people will admit that they want to ban some guns if pressed. It may be best to work the other way, ask them what they would allow, then get them to explain who they get rid of all the ones the do not allow.

Sophisticated anti-freedom people will simply lie or refuse to answer.

[Mr. K]

never hand a gun to a libtard especialy an automatic

The first thing they do is put their finger on the trigger (because that’s where your finger goes) and only true shooters with knowlege usually spot this.

[The Great RJ]

The Second Amendment was created for a purpose...as a last defense against a tyrannical government. The Founding Fathers knew that if the citizens were disarmed they would be powerless against an armed government.

[Hugin]

The state legislature in California recently passed a bill to ban all semisutos, period. Fortunately Jerry Brown vetoed it, but they can’t really make the claim nobody wants to do so.

[Wildbill22]

When a liberal like Jerry Brown is the only thing stopping drastic gun control laws, that should tell you something.

[Arthur McGowan]

“No one wants to ban guns.”

Yeah. And “No one is pro-abortion.”

[Teacher317]

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

[fella]

It’s a simple fact that a nations people can not rise up against a tyrannical government if they are unarmed. Our founders knew this hence the 2nd amendment’s “Shall not be infringed” clause.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.

“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest.

Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.

So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.

My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal.”

-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58

“Yes, I’m for an outright ban [on handguns].”

-Pete Shields, Chairman emeritus, Handgun Control, Inc., 60 Minutes interview

HCI, around 1984, came out in favor of a ban on semi-auto rifles and shotguns.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

And to think, in 1962 Thomas J Dodd and Emauell Cellar proposed the first federal law on common firearms.

1962; “We don’t want to take away your guns, we ONLY want to register handguns! Rifles and shotguns will not be affected”.

1964: “We only want to register all your guns, not ban them! Only Army surplus guns will be banned.”

1968: “We only want to register your guns, and ban “Saturday Night Specials” and small foreign handguns along with army surplus rifles!” (They got the ban on 5 shot army surplus rifles and handguns and small foreign pistols)

1970: “We only want to ban Saturday night specials! Large handguns and rifles will not be affected!”

1976: “We only want to ban all handguns! Long guns will not be affected!”

1981: “The NRA is a rifle organization! They should give up their handguns, and they can keep their rifles!”- Lee Grant on GMA

1984: “We must ban “assault Rifles, unsuitable or hunting!”

1989: George Bush bans import of some foreign made “assault rifles”.

1992: Assault rifle ban passed by Clinton.

2000: first calls to ban single shot .50 cal rifles...

2012 calls for MORE bans on semi auto rifles and handguns. If you can’t ban them then go after ammo limits, the magazines and styles of the stocks.

And so it continues.

They lied to us in 1962.
They lied to us in 1964.
They lied to us in 1968.
They lied to us in 1970.
They lied to us in 1976.
They lied to us in 1981.
They lied to us in 2013,

AND THEY ARE LYING TO US NOW!

[marktwain]

Great post. Mind if I use it?

[nathanbedford]

Anti-gun leftists know perfectly well that every new law to restrict the right to keep and bear arms will typically be obeyed by the law abiding-a matter of definition-and not obeyed by lawbreakers-again, definitionally true. Therefore, every new law which restricts the right to keep and bear arms leaves the law-abiding more vulnerable to the depredations of the illegally armed as it renders the former defenseless in a society in which about 300 million guns are in circulation.

So every step along the way to total gun confiscation is productive of more gun violence or at least more predation with guns. The only logical endgame for the left is total confiscation of guns but each step proves counterproductive. Worse for the left, each step increasing restriction quite understandably incites opposition to further gun restriction as it leaves in its wake innocent victims.

It also alerts Second Amendment supporters of the direction in which the gun grabbers are moving. So opposition to further restriction mounts. The only way the left can counter all of this is by professing more and more denial of their endgame, the only approach from their point of view that makes sense. It is this anomaly which makes the case against guns in America essentially an oxymoron.

[bunkerhill7]

1946 US govt banned war souvenirs and began mandatory surrender but nobody up here in the mountains complied.\

We got thousand`s BAR`s all kinds of Korean and WW 2 and Vietnam era auto`s and mg here plus what else....just waitin` for `em-
They`ll never know til they start a war here coz they are communist NAZI war mongers.= warmonger= one who stirs up war.
The Cumonista never will set foot up here again coiz he is scared shirtless

viz

LEGION GETS MACHINE GUN AND RIFLE
The Lake George Post of the American Legion has-received from the government a German machine gun and a German Mauser rifle.
Ticonderoga Sentinel , Apr-June 1926

Congressman Francis D. Calkin of Oswego, N. Y., state-,
world war trophies, such as machine gun- of the 1908 model, rifles, empty German shells, bayonets,buckles. belts, canteens, cartridge cases, lanterns, and other small German ornaments are available for distribution to Legion posts. Application for any of these articles should be made direct to the War dept in Wash DC.

Ticonderoga Sentinel Thurs Dec 26, 1929 page 5

Plattsburgh-Press Republican “Is Liberty Passing?
Probably much of our modern increase in crime can be laid to the fact that in the past quarter-century a vast number of acts, once innocent and legal, have been turned into offenses by legislation. Instead of a liberal, well-ordered legal code that permits every citizen to lead his own life so long as he does not tread on his fellows, we are burdened with a multitude of petty laws, many of them conflicting, and practically all of them bound by red tape. In a recent article, H. L. MENCKEN, editor of the American Mercury, said that “the bill of rights is on its last legs. . .
Step by step, at first cautiously but of late boldly, the learned justices have found reasons to sustain the wholesale destruction, first of individual rights, and then of state rights. Today the once free “American citizen is a mere subject. . .”
Plattsburgh-Press Republican “Is Liberty Passing? 1929

“Thompson ..shot two japanese manning the weapon. One dead Japanese was a marine officer, pausing only long enoughto take the officer`s saber and pistol as souvenirs.
Incidentally these New York boys on Makin are champion souvenir collectors.
They do not search back over a battlefield when the fighting is over to pick up treasures.
They get them the first time through - under fire.”
NY Times Nov 28 1943

“Louis Maloney rec`d letter from Walter Bishop somewhere in South Pacific, WW2:... ‘I picked up a few souvenirs while I was over here. I have a Jap rifle and a bayonet...” Essex County Republican. 1944
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“Crown Point Soldier Sends Souvenirs Home-
Pfc. Roy S. Marsha , son of Mr. & Mrs. George Marsh, Crown Point, has sent a German pack, Italian bayonet, two Italian knives, with fascist insignia on the case, an Italian pistol, ...” Essex County Republican. 1945

lest we ever forget the real America
“ELIZABETHTOWN
—Frank A. Stevens has received numerous souvenirs from his son, Durand, who is a Sergeant attached to the Signal Corps in the South-west Pacific. They consist of shell and woods and money; a flame thrower; a flag; a telephone, and many other items of interest.”
‘Essex County Republican’ Mar 3, 1944, p1

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“An interesting sidelight of the event was the large display of World War II souvenirs that the veterans have collected during the past war in the many theaters of operation”
‘Essex County Republican’ Aug23 1946 p1

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“Deer Season Slated Oct. 20-Nov. 20;
Bar Automatic Weapons
Governor Dewey signed a bill yesterday fixing the opening of the 1946 deer season in the Adirondacks for October 20. The season will close Nov. 20.
Other bills of interest to local sportsmen signed this week include one prohibiting the use of automatic firearms in hunting.
Designed as a safeguard against the use of rapid-fire weapons brought back by overseas veterans as war souvenirs, the bill defines an automatic gun as “one which will continue to fire as long as the trigger is held back.” Autoloading guns which require that the trigger be pulled for each shot are permitted, provide they contain not more than six shells.
The State Conservation Department was authorized to set open season for grouse or partridge concurrently with the season for woodcock.”
‘Essex County Republican’. Thurs. Apr 11 1946
Machine guns were legal in NY State only 66 years ago, then illegal for hunting -
What happened?
I SAY FIGHT BACK AMERICA!!!!!!!!
GIVE ME LIBERY OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!
OVER MY DEAD BODY_ COM` N GET IT YOU SOB BASTARDS!!

[bunkerhill7]

Give Me Liberty!

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Go for it. Credit me in case I have made an error or two. All of this came from my memory as I go way back.

[TBP]

Lefties do.

[driftdiver]

I have an uncle who had a nazi flag, some uniform pieces, and a bayonet. He was a tank mechanic.

[bunkerhill7]

My uncle brought home a german lugar, a BAR, a MI carbine [everyone here has M1 carbines from Korea], Thompson SMG`s -still got `em

Everyone is armed with military souvenirs here from Vietnam too, and we welcome the Cuomunists to try to start a war ...

[driftdiver]

They use small steps and get people in the middle ground to do their dirty work.

Their methods work as far as pushing their agenda. Throughout recent history there are few examples of them losing without a violent revolution. They are using our govt against us and using our tax dollars to pay for pushing their agenda.

Add in the weak minded who want a free ride and its a difficult task to turn back the tide.

[narses]

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