Posted on 11/22/2013 7:04:58 PM PST by Seizethecarp
“What BS”
Yes, but it is per-1990 BS. Meaning that for any alternative narrative to be real, it must date from before 1990.
By saying BS I meant the fact that zero never went to class and then gets all these accolades and yet never went to class.
I’ll have to search my FR files as I feel quite certain that is where I read about Tom Fife’s experience in Moscow. However,I find that the the same matter is covered in an article in an American Free Press web publication of March 2009. You might also want to read about the man in the story i.e. Tom Fife. He is a real person and had service as an officer in the Army at the time of the Viet war.
According to your article, Obama Sr & Stanley Ann lived together as man & wife for two yrs. If you believe that you’ll believe anything, & if you don’t, what makes you trust anything else in the article?
At some point someone told Obama that if he had presidential aspirations he wd have to bury his Kenyan birth in favor of HI. Unfortunately for him the Kenyan Parliament isn’t playing along. They proudly twice declared Obama Jr a native-born Kenyan. (& no, they’re not too stupid to figure it out. That idea is merely a desperate moonbat smear to dismiss the simple, straightforward truth: Kenyans know exactly where Obama was born.)
I’d give that more credence if it weren’t an online digital text, which, of course, wouldn’t date to 1990. Anybody got a copy of the original newspaper article for comparison? It’s too, too easy to change/edit transcripts allegedly of stories printed 23 years ago. The author is an avowed Obama admirer.
More over-the-top propaganda from the Kool Aid article which you inexplicably posted [as if it contained something of worth/validity]:
“he moved to a small village outside Jakarta, Indonesia, with his mother, an anthropologist. There, he spent his boyhood playing with the sons and daughters of rice farmers and rickshaw drivers, attending an Indonesian-speaking school, where he had little contact with Americans.
Every morning at 5, his mother would wake him to take correspondence classes for fear he would forget his English.”
- See more at: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2008/09/barack-obama-ha.html#sthash.TPwdGOMH.dpuf
Are you not aware that Obama doesn’t speak Indonesian? How cd he forget his English when (apart from learning the Arabic call to prayer) that’s all he spoke?
Honestly, I have never seen a more smotheringly saccharin pro-Obama piece. Where did you find it? On Fogbow?
I realize I'm a nobody in flyover country, but I care and always found your story to be both intriguing and believable.
Your story is a notable non-hearsay claim that Barry spoke to you directly, but your claim that Barry said he was born in Mombasa IS hearsay as to where he was born, not that he said it.
You have no direct knowledge of where Barry was born, only direct knowledge that Barry told you he was born in Mombasa. If you and Barry were in court and he denied he ever said it your testimony would be negated as a “he said, she said” conflict of testimony. More direct non-hearsay evidence (direct witness testimony or documents) that Barry was born in Mombasa would be needed to prove that birth location in court.
While I find your recollection to be plausible, IIRC, you are also on the record initially as saying that you could not be completely confident that it was Barry who told you he was born at Mombasa, Kenya. You said that it was after the fact that it made sense circumstantially that it was him.
This initial waffling by you over whether you remember specifically talking to Barry would weaken any direct non-hearsay testimony you could give that you talked directly him.
In trying to reconstruct Barry’s evolving claims regarding his life-narrative it is important to know where he claimed to be born at different times and places. Your story lends support to a data-point that in 1980 (IIRC that was when you talked to him) Barry was claiming to have been born in Mombasa. I think your story is plausible and notable, even though not courtroom evidence-worthy.
Someone’s missing from that story: Lolo Soetoro.
Odd, isn’t it? In that telling of the tale, his parents “separated,” not “divorced.”
One more: “Tribe said, Obama wrote an insightful research article showing how contrasting views in the abortion debate are a direct result of cultural and sociological differences.”
Has anyone seen this “insightful research article” on abortion?
It’s linked at this address:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/obama-1990-article-in-the-harvard-law-review-on-ab
It’s really pretty stupid. It’s a discussion of whether a baby in the womb can sue its mother. Leave it to the sociopath Obama to couch abortion in such bizarrely irrational terms.
Thanks. You think Bill Ayers wrote it for him? Or maybe Cass Sunstein, who’s mentioned in the article. Interesting that this first appeared (”his long lost” solitary article) in August 2008, at the height of blogger scrutiny (instead of media vetting) of the candidate who also was under review for his missing birth certificate. “unsigned and previously unattributed” Convenient. But take their word for it; he wrote it, but it’s the only one he wrote!
You’re welcome. It’s really not that well written on any level, so it’s possible Obama wrote it. The absence of grammatical errors, however, indicates that if in fact he wrote it, he had a lot of help. (The few items of his writing that are known beyond a doubt to be his abound in grammatical errors.)
Otoh, there had to be a reason for the article to be unsigned & unattributed. Why wd Obama have written it & failed to take credit? It’s probably one of those instances where he threw together a few uninspired ideas & someone else turned them into an article—in this case, an equally uninspired article.
I admit I only skimmed the 6 pp. The idea that a baby’s right to life has ***anything*** to do w its being successfully able to, via third party, sue its mother is just too stupid to pursue in-depth. Only an unthinking liberal ideologue wd see it as worthy of a second thought. & notice how Tribe had to lie & mischaracterize it, in order to praise it. If he’d actually come out & said the article was about whether a baby in the womb cd sue its mother, Obama wd have been exposed as the intellectually-challenged psychopath he is.
“According to your article, Obama Sr & Stanley Ann lived together as man & wife for two yrs. If you believe that you’ll believe anything, & if you don’t, what makes you trust anything else in the article?”
I don’t see it reading that way. As to the happy family idea - I think it was a marriage of convenience. For Sr. it was either a way to stay in the US or not have his visa revoked. For her it was either naiveté or not wanting to be an unwed mother with a bastard child.
As to the Times article - the reporter probably did not do a lot of research (she couldn’t just go to the Archie website and search for “Obama”), so I would assume most of the biographic info came directly from Obama himself. Since it was a fluff piece about him not his father, I wouldn’t think that he would mention that his dad was a womanizing, alcoholic who abandoned him. Of course, we don’t know what his mother told him about his early years so maybe he believed that they lived together. Who knows.
“At some point someone told Obama that if he had presidential aspirations he wd have to bury his Kenyan birth in favor of HI.”
And what this article shows is that if that occurred, it happened before 1990.
“which you inexplicably posted [as if it contained something of worth/validity]:”
Then you should have read Seizethecarp’s comment that I was responding to.
If Zullo has an alternative birth narrative it has to explain why the 1990 article has essentially the same narrative that exists today.
“Where did you find it?”
It’s called internet research - you should try it sometime.
“According to your article, Obama Sr & Stanley Ann lived together as man & wife for two yrs. If you believe that you’ll believe anything, & if you don’t, what makes you trust anything else in the article?”
‘I don’t see it reading that way.’
So when you read the article, it doesn’t say Obama Sr & Stanley Ann lived together for 2 yrs?
What does it say when you read it? They lived together for 1 yr?
They never lived together?
What?
‘It’s called internet research’
So you just randomly searched, & came up w one of the most sickeningly pro-Obama articles ever written—if indeed not THE most pro-Obama article ever written?
I guess you call that a hole in one.
“If Zullo has an alternative birth narrative it has to explain why the 1990 article has essentially the same narrative that exists today.”
The narrative in the 1990 article has numerous lies and evasions starting with Barry’s parents living together for two years.
Zullo doesn’t have to explain anything in the 1990 article, an article based on hearsay from Barry (and his Chicago handlers). I expect Zullo will reveal forensic evidence of an alternative narrative that conflicts with the 1990 article narrative.
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