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Inside: Russias Toughest Prisons
National Geographic via Youtube.com ^

Posted on 06/30/2013 12:38:00 PM PDT by cunning_fish

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1 posted on 06/30/2013 12:38:00 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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yEESH...suicide would be better.


2 posted on 06/30/2013 12:45:59 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Will Freepr combat)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Hey, this is the kind of prison that will make people think twice about breaking the law again.

Compared to here -- Massachusetts governor Deval Patrick "Free-em-all-Deval" (D, of course) declared that not giving prisoners a choice of underpants color is a human rights violation.

3 posted on 06/30/2013 12:52:57 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Our prisons are overflowing. I say contract it out.


4 posted on 06/30/2013 1:15:41 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

these are lifers....but it would be an idea for teenage punks...6 mos to a year and that would do it.


5 posted on 06/30/2013 1:15:51 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Will Freepr combat)
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In fact they’ve covered four prisons there. Black Dolphin is a supermax, probably worst in the world.


6 posted on 06/30/2013 1:20:05 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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just finished it-I’m impressed.


7 posted on 06/30/2013 2:01:10 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: cunning_fish

Olympic athletes reported encountering filthy conditions in a hospital when an ice skater was taken following a car accident. Pooling blood, filthy used medical instruments stained with congealing blood and dirt. Dirty conditions throughout the whole place. Yet this prison is sparkling clean?


8 posted on 06/30/2013 2:05:26 PM PDT by ransomnote
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Does not Russian justice system have capital punishment ?
9 posted on 06/30/2013 2:22:41 PM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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Russia has a murder rate 5 times that of the US? But they don’t have weapons and you have to register knives? (still watching)


10 posted on 06/30/2013 2:26:19 PM PDT by ransomnote
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I used to work with SOviets. The most feared/joked about prison was “Magadan” (sp?). Not featured in this video.
Great video though.


11 posted on 06/30/2013 2:29:56 PM PDT by ransomnote
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Finished the vid. As unbelievably harsh as the conditions are - they might result in people who emerge from prison as intended (unwilling to risk being imprisoned again) as opposed to our hard security prisons where men are raped daily and then released with the expectation that they will blend in with normal people.


12 posted on 06/30/2013 2:50:50 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote
Siberian prison time looks preferable to Los Angeles prison time: better neighbors.


13 posted on 06/30/2013 3:05:13 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

My son and I watched this the night before I day at the USNA. He looked at me and said that plebe year will be a piece of cake compared to that.


14 posted on 06/30/2013 3:07:46 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I agree. Almost everything the government touches loses money and efficiency. Better to let a private firm that can actually get results handle the business of incarceration.


15 posted on 06/30/2013 3:08:40 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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I agree, It’s a classic case for David Ricardo’s Law of Comparative Economic Advantage. What is Russia good at? Running prisons. What are we good at? Producing prisoners.

We can contract with the Russians to house our prisoners at a fraction of the cost it takes us to do it, plus we could reduce the size of government in the process and save even more. It would even help the airlines out financially by flying them there and back when their sentence was up. The airlines treat everyone like prisoners already, so what is to them to add few additional security precautions.

Sounds like a deal to me.


16 posted on 06/30/2013 4:16:32 PM PDT by Dogfaced Soldier
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>>>Does not Russian justice system have capital punishment ?<<<

Life in Black Dolphin is practically a maximal punishment in Russia. Their use of death penalty was extremely rare since 1953 after Joe Stalin’s death thus legally it is not abolished and still part of their criminal code. Anyway, last person was executed in Russia in 1996. It was Sergey Fisher who raped and murdered 11 young boys aged 10-16 in a period of 1986-1992. This guy was sick, he had a torture chamber under his garage, skinned his victims.

They had maniac who murdered 50+, a muslim terrorist who downed an aircraft with a manpad murdering 130+ passengers and crew after 1996 but they both got life in Dolphin.


17 posted on 06/30/2013 10:20:49 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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>>>>Russia has a murder rate 5 times that of the US? But they don’t have weapons and you have to register knives? (still watching)<<<<

In fact they have a variety of weapons available in Russia, both legal and illegal. A majority of assault firearms are pretty legal in Russia, such as SKS or SVD rifle.
Handguns are actually limited, but it is not impossible to legally own and carry if you really want it.


18 posted on 06/30/2013 10:26:48 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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In fact Magadan is not a prison but a territory - a Russian North Pacific. Magadan is a remote city, there is a Kolyma river known to have a permafrost bottom. In order to get there you have to drive on “the road of bones” (of the prisoners who built it). In fact Magadan district was a place of numerous prison camps until 1950s notorious for it’s high death rate due to a harsh climate conditions. Most of them were closed in 1950s with a dismantling of Stalin’s gulag system.


19 posted on 06/30/2013 10:45:16 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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One of the ladies in a bicycle tour I was with in Russia back in the early 1980's broke her wrist in a spill, so some of us got to see the hospital. Pretty fascinating... dark, dirty, only one x-ray machine in the whole place. Treatment was to wrap her wrist in a rag, and give her a bottle of vodka for the pain. They also poured vodka on the rag to help sterilize the cuts/scrapes on her hand.

It seemed to work fine though.

20 posted on 07/01/2013 12:29:45 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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