Posted on 11/15/2012 6:34:51 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
Akin did the job on himself. Plus McCackle invested more in Akin’s campaign than Akin did.
Ditto Perry.
I suggest an IQ test for the next GOP candidate for anything national.
One single issue killed the GOP’s chances in the senate and WH. The issue was no exceptions on abortion. It fit the Donk’s “war on women” narrative.
Yes Karl Rove was pulling the strings, but we knew it and let him do it. Our country is getting what it deserves and there is no shortage of people who should have exercised better judgment.
Yes Karl Rove was pulling the strings, but we knew it and let him do it. Our country is getting what it deserves and there is no shortage of people who should have exercised better judgment.
Quite honestly he looked like he didn't belong there. This had nothing to do with Rove. He lost it all by himself.
She made her decision is early October, well before the first primaries. The silly debates started way too soon. The campaigns start too soon, because the lamestream wants a horse race so it can slaughter our conservatives and build up the moderates, just like Rove.
Rove's candidates did not tout no exceptions on abortion and they still lost. Rove's record wasn't just dismal; it was catastrophic.
“This article is talking about the critical time of Iowa through Florida.”
Yes, and Santorum won Iowa. Why, if you wanted the conservative to win - did you support Gingrich in South Carolina?
No, I mean Gingrich would have lost Houston-Astros bad. Jacksonville-Jaguars bad. Custer-at-Little-Big-Horn bad. I mean bad.
His withdrawal and endorsement of Santorum after Colorado/Minnesota/Missouri would have ensured that Romney lost the nomination.
It was at this point - his candidacy had no hope. He had been superceded by Santorum’s campaign. Instead, he stayed in, conservatives were split and the result is what we had today.
People here were warning you folks about these things. Why did you not all listen to them?
I think it was just learning curve. He was doing just fine by the time he ended his campaign.
So, at one level I’ve got to agree with you: it’s dumb to enter a presidential campaign with a steep learning curve.
On the other hand, I know about the racial epithet rock and the “heartless” comment was only significant because it was taken by his opponents to be a description of Perry’s position rather than as an experienced nudge in the right direction.
“sanctimonious establishment hack Santorum”
That’s the cure! Less sanctimony more reach around the aisle.
By jove, I believe you’ve got it!
What a weak weak field of candidates.
Mr. “Grandfather of 0bamacare”
Mr. “Two out of Three aint bad”
Mr. “the evils of birth control”
Mr. “eye out for wife #4”
Etc, etc. Very sad for our Republic that this is the best the GOP had with asperations of the Presidency.
Mr. “the evils of birth control”
How’s that birth control workin’ out for ya?
It's pretty clear this stuff happens, particularly with 20/20 hindsight. It's also clear that Newt (and the others) did not have the capacity, the supporters, nor the strategists to pull him through.
Romney won, he was the best candidate this time. Looking back at all the others with the hindsight we have now, I am certain Newt would have been destroyed much worse. This was close, Newt or any of the others would have made it a blow out.
You can check this too: I was a firm supporter of Newt and wanted him to win the nomination.
You don’t understand Iowa, and how winning a tiny caucus of weirdo voters who never make a difference ever - is meaingless.
And why did I support Gingirch? He was the best combination of ability, accomplishment, persuasive ability, and issues in the field. Far from perfect, but he has accomplished a whole lot more for what we bleieve in than Rick ever will. Yes,Rick takes the slings and arrows, because he’s never effective. And Rick has sold more conservatism down the river in his short life than Newt ever did, altho I am fully aware of some of newt’s spectacularly bad moments.
But again, Rick is a pro life Democrat. Google “50 Things You Don’t Know About Rick Santorum” - it’s a document HIS campaign put out. Get back to me with that great conservative after that.
How is your anti freedom big government nanny state advocacy working out for you?
Winning many elections speaking out against the evils of birth control lately?
Wrong. Gingrich would have won. He's a master communicator, a tough fighter, a great political strategist and he appeals to the working-class whites who didn't show up. He also had talked up Susana Martinez and Marco Rubio as V.P.s, which would've probably helped. Santorum would've had a chance, if he could avoid an Akin/Mourdock like gaffe, which was probably not likely.
Unfortunately he hurt himself at the wrong time, he left an enduring impression with the GOP voters that he would never pass the 5% threshold, and they (we) moved on.
In 20/20 hindsight it's all so clear isn't it?
:-)
You can’t beat somebody with nobody.Shortly after the ’10 election I adopted “Draft Palin” for my tagline precisely in the hopes of helping to rally conservatives around a single candidate who could suck all the conservative oxygen out of the room and keep Romney from dividing and conquering us.
But uniting conservatives wasn’t reality; Palin wasn’t “down for the struggle” and we were divided - and, consequently, we were easily conquered.
The only tiny thing I would disagree with you on is the Tea Party reference. There are two distinct strains of tea - at least two - and only one is the real liberty minded, limited government, anti Obama Care tea that was sparked by Rick Santelli and led to the formation of the tea party - which included a lot of social conservatives, but they were not there for the social issues per se.
And then there is the co opting of some of the tea party groups as a off shoot of and repackaing of pro life groups.
The first group gives us Marco Rubio, Lee from Utah, Johnson from Wisconsin, Cruz from Texas, Paul from Kentucky - and is kind of godfathered by DeMint. The second group gives us O Donnell, Angle, Akin and Mourdock. And Santorum. And what this clueless group doesn’t even understand is that Akin and Santorum are really long time tools of the establishment, but they are so despised for their utter lack of ability, that they then claim to be outsiders. And too many fall for it around here simply because they will babble endlessly about abortion. How about we save the country from Marxism and/or Islamic terror first, then win the arguments that we are right on regarding the other issues?
I’m a total Reagan conservative, but I’ll be darned if I’ll blindy support an idiot just because he is right on the social issues. There are non idiots who are also right on those issues.
Find me someone who can actually accomplish something for those issues, even if that is someone who doesn’t look like Brady Bunch central casting.
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