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I am voting pro-Constitution (and Ron Paul) [Vanity]

Posted on 05/03/2012 5:00:51 PM PDT by bravedog

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To: bravedog
However, right now, all polling I can find (Rasmussen, PPP) shows that Paul would outperform Romney in the general election.

LOL, sure. Paul is a fringe candidate, the more people know the less they would like him in an actual general election. Republicans are not going to vote for a guy who thinks Bradley Manning is a hero and a patriot, that it's cool if Iran gets nukes, etc. Democrats are not going to vote for someone who wants to dismantle the welfare state.

The Republican candidate will likely have the best chance.

Likely? Somehow I think if Paul decided to run as an independent you'd find a reason to vote for him even if he was going to get nothing but the typical 3rd party fraction of the vote.

I actually like Paul now and I know he would be better than Obamney.

Well, I think Ron Paul is a kook. I really like half his policy ideas and find the other half to be lunacy. However, if you are successful in miraculously getting him the GOP nomination, I WILL vote for Ron Paul over Obama.

41 posted on 05/03/2012 8:16:43 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Gertie
If you have ever used any form of birth control you have commited abortion in your heart and your mind.

Say what? That's some twisted thinking there.
42 posted on 05/03/2012 8:44:35 PM PDT by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: bravedog; upchuck; Mountain Mary

Ron Paul has to many enemies to win the Nomination at Tampa.

Ron Paul already has won 4 State Primaries, and needs to win just one more to qualify as a Nominee Candidate at the Tampa Convention.

This would greatly upset the GOP-E, but probably not Romney as he has always been clueless about how many voters really dislike him.

Although Ron Paul cannot win the Nomination in Tampa, he can along with our help create the proper environment for an OPEN CONVENTION in Tampa.

Then the Open Convention delegates can draft a REAL Republican.

My favorite for Republican Nominee is Sen. Jim DeMint, R-Sc.

Sort of a round-about way of bypassing the Romney/Obamalite/GOP-E sinking ship, but here is how I see it:

1.) Vote in large turnout numbers in the remaining Primaries, for Ron Paul as an ABR vote, (Anybody But Romney), especially if you vote in the May 29 Primary in Texas.

2.) Work and Lobby for an Open Convention.

3.) Draft Sen. Jim DeMint as the Republican Nominee.

BTW, Jim “says” that he does not want to run, - - - “at this time.”

BTW, BTW, an Open Convention will upset the Liberal Agenda Media, and their political consultants who already (in their minds) have Obama re-elected.


43 posted on 05/03/2012 9:35:43 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: bravedog
First and foremost, we need to remove Obama from his throne.

I agree we need to get rid of Obama, but we do not want to replace him with Cut and Run. The surrender monkey would be worse than the wanna be king. There is very little difference between the two. They both blame America for every problem in the world. Both want to experiment with perverts in the military. Both endorse OWS. Both think that if we appease our enemies enough they will leave us alone. Both want to destroy our military. Both really bring home the bacon.

About the only difference between them is that even Obama saw that the world is a better place without OBL. Appeasement Paul thought the SEALs violated OBL's constitutional right to kill innocent Americans.
44 posted on 05/04/2012 2:58:16 AM PDT by John D
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To: Graewoulf
My favorite for Republican Nominee is Sen. Jim DeMint, R-Sc.

Me, too. But Jim has already said (last year) that he won't run. He feels he can be more productive in the Senate getting conservative legislation passed and promoting conservative Senate candidates through his PAC, Senate Conservatives Fund (SCF).

Plus, his second Senate term is up in 2014 and he has stated he won't seek a third term.

45 posted on 05/04/2012 5:15:41 AM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: upchuck; blam; Oldeconomybuyer; drbuzzard; bigheadfred; LucyT; DJ MacWoW; Jim Robinson; All

Think about the contradiction of the two paraphrased statements from Sen. DeMint: 1.) ‘I want to stay in the US Senate’; and 2.) ‘I will leave the US Senate in two years.’

Could it be that DeMint is preparing to be a Presidential Primary Candidate in 2016?

We need to draft him in 2012 and avoid the sorry Romney years if Romney wins!

IMHO, Romney will loose by a hair to Obama which will require that Obama be immediately IMPEACHED in order to save our Republic.

Obama or Obamalite, the US Federal Government will not have it’s, and therefore our, financial house in order by 2016.

Thus, political resolution of the main problem: OVERSPENDING BY THE US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, may not be achievable in 2016.

Hence, it is IMPERATIVE that we have an OPEN Convention in Tampa so that Sen. Jim DeMint can be drafted, albeit kicking and screaming, to be the Republican Party Nominee for the Office of the President of the United States of America.

I have outlined above how voting for Ron Paul as a Primary wedge against Romney could lead to an Open Convention in Tampa.

Since Ron Paul cannot win the Nomination, he would serve as our last best wedge hope of defeating Romney AND the GOP-E in an Open Convention.

Primary Candidate Ron Paul is the last non-Romney Candidate left standing between the GOP-E’s Romney, (= probable loss to Obama in November), and an Open Convention of a Republican that can soundly defeat Obama.

A “win” over Obama is not enough, Obama MUST lose in a LANDSLIDE!!!!!!

NONE of the Primary Candidates have shown that they have that potential.

It is time for an Open Convention to choose the best Presidential Candidate.

It is time for us Conservatives to turn out in massive numbers in the remaining primaries, especially in the big electoral delegate states such as Texas, and vote for ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY!

Ron Paul needs only to win one more State Primary to qualify as a Nominee Candidate, and therefore is our best chance for an Open Convention to select a GREAT Nominee, such as Senator Jim DeMint.

I think Senator Jim DeMint would be our best choice, but first we must work to have an Open Convention in Tampa.

What say all of you?


46 posted on 05/04/2012 6:28:53 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf; blam; Oldeconomybuyer; drbuzzard; bigheadfred; LucyT; DJ MacWoW; Jim Robinson; All
We need to draft him in 2012 and avoid the sorry Romney years if Romney wins!

What part of Jim saying he does not want to run do you not understand? Are you planning to FORCE him to run?

FWIW, Jim is my Senator. He and I had a one-on-one conversation. I asked him about this. He was very humble. Said he appreciates my confidence and the confidence of hundreds (thousands) of others that want him to run. Insisted he does not want to run. Said he can influence more from his Senate seat and the Senate Conservatives Fund. Pretty clear to me. He said nothing to me that he hasn't said publicly a number of times.

IMHO, we'd better spend our time getting local, county and state conservatives elected/reelected. And work to keep the House and take the Senate. If we have a solid majority in House and Senate, it will matter less who the president is. Obviously I'd prefer for that to be a Republican. But if nobama cheats and frauds his way to reelection, having the House and Senate will put a serious damper on his plans.

47 posted on 05/04/2012 1:39:31 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: bravedog

I applaud your post and agree with it 1000%. I wanted to let you know you are not alone here.

In the interest of full disclosure, I’m probably going to vote for Romney. I’m registered in Ohio, I suspect it will be close.

In an ideal world I’d be voting for RP.


48 posted on 05/05/2012 2:11:12 AM PDT by jacob k
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