Vital Records Indicate Obama Not Born In Hawaii Hospital (PART 3)

thedailypen.blogspot.com ^ | 3/12/2012 | Penbrook Johannson and Daniel Crosby

[Fred Nerks]

New York, New York, United States September 9. 1959

Cora Weiss (second from left), Executive Director of the African American Students Foundation, at Idlewild Airport welcoming the 81 students from Kenya on the first Airlift. Prior to the airlift, Kenyan labor leader Tom Mboya had toured the United States and persuaded many universities and colleges to provide scholarships for students from East Africa, mostly Kenya. The African American Students Foundation was founded to raise money to get the students to the United States to use these scholarships. The Foundation organized several airlifts. On the right with his back to the camera is William X. Scheinman who set up the African American Students Foundation. Scheinman was also a contributor. Photo courtesy of Cora Weiss.

Collection: Private collection of Cora and Peter Weiss

Malcolm X meeting with students from East Africa at a welcoming program for students bought to the United States to study by the African American Students Foundation. Photo courtesy of Cora Weiss

Collection: Private collection of Cora and Peter Weiss

[Fred Nerks]

How about from the Middle East, say Cairo? Still land in New York first? I notice the baby-sitters family, (through marriage) who were migrants from Cairo in 1946, all left their ship in New York.
But if, in 1961, a person in the middle east wanted to holiday in Hawaii, could they have flown direct, or had a layover in Indonesia?

I don’t want to know much, do I?

[El Gato]

Is there proof Obama’s dad and mother were actually married?

They got divorced, and those records have been revealed. But there was not a copy of the marriage certificate in the paperwork. No copy of that, or any marriage announcement has been found. That is a someone unusual in a time and place when all the births were reported in not one, but two newspapers. My hometown, now approaching 200,000 souls, has a regular daily newspaper that continues to report both marriages and births, including in the online version. But that is not true in most places that large.

Besides, BHO Sr was already married to a Kenyan woman. After abandoning BO and his mother (she was likely glad to see him go) Sr. married another Caucasian woman from Boston, but he did it in Kenya where multiple wives are legal. IIRC, he later married another Kenyan woman. What all these women saw in a drunken carouser, I haven't a clue.

[Fred Nerks]

The ‘real birthday’ for BHO2 hasn’t been ‘discovered’, it’s just the date that popped up on the Search conducted by the PI.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23617671/BARNETT-v-OBAMA-Exhibit-Barack-Obama-Background-Report

It’s either a birthday for zero written as 8/1/61 in the USA fashion, or it’s a birthday for the man from Equatorial Guinea, written in the european fashion - which would make it JANUARY 8, 1961.

[El Gato]

were lawfully married in Wailuku, Maui, State of Hawaii, on February 2, 1961, by a person duly authorized to perform marriage cerimonies and ever since that date have been and are now husband and wife.

They had Imams and/or witch doctors on Maui in 1961? Who knew.

[El Gato]

Also, do you have proof that Sr's first marriage was still active in 1960/61? Or, are you assuming like most of us are?

How could I prove I'm still married to me my wife? I could prove I wasn't if I had divorce papers, but how would I prove I am?

IOW, you are asking for something that does not exist.

Now they are likely documents tending to show that a marriage still exists, like joint tax returns, joint bank accounts, cencus records etc. Probably none of them, save maybe a cencus record, would apply in 1961 Kenya.

The guy was a Muslim, he could have just said "I divorce thee", three times, and he no longer be married to "that woman".

[El Gato]

It seems to me that the guidelines they reference are only about how the vital statistics are reported to the Feds

That's my take as well. The birth certificate would still show the correct place of birth.

[Fred Nerks]

...I have wondered about the clan accepting Zero, since they must have know he was NOT the son of the Kenyan, since the real son of the Kenyan had lived around at least some of them, looked like the Kenyan, and Zero looks nothing like him. Do they really think Zero is the real BHO or was it money talking?

I naturally wondered about that myself, remember 'auntie' Zeituni saying that she was there when the letter arrived from the kenyan in Hawaii, to say that he had a son? It would be helpful to know the date on which that letter arrived in the village...Onyango, the only member of the clan who could read, would have read the letter our to the extended family... And when Stanley Ann and zero arrived in the village to introduce themselves, in 1983, according to a member of the clan in Kogelo, all she would have had to say is 'here we are, the white woman he married in Hawaii, and this is our son...' But that would only work if the dark boy had remained with his father and Ruth in Nairobi, and the villagers never knew who he was, in which case Malik would not have provided the revelation that he remembers playing with BHO2 when they both were boys...so what further lies remain to be uncovered?

[Fred Nerks]

WHO IS CORA WEISS?

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Cora_Weiss

[hoosiermama]

IIRC there was a British airline that had a flight from Mombassa through Glascow to Vancouver. Often carried students, missionaries and military in empty seats Check flights from Seattle to HI too.

[WhizCodger]

Speculation regarding the possible flight by Ann Dunham with her new baby boy, BHO-II, in late August 1961 from Embakasi Airport, Nairobi to London Airport (North Side)

Based on the April 24, 1960 BOAC schedule (Section: Britain – East & Central Africa) linked below, it is possible, for example, that Ann Dunham and her new baby took BOAC Flight BA162 (Sunday or Wednesday) in August 1961 on a ‘Bristol Britannia Turboprop Aircraft’ which departed Nairobi at 20.30 (GMT +3), made stops in Entebbe, Khartoum, and Rome, and arrived in London at 12.35 (GMT +1) on the next day. Thus, the total flight time was just slightly over 18 hours. Two main meals and a breakfast were served on the flight. Britannia Flight BA160 (Thursday or Saturday), another possibility, did not stop in Entebbe and therefore arrived in London a few hours earlier.

As another possibility, Ann and her newborn son could have taken BOAC Flight BA116 (Monday, Tuesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday) on a 'de Havilland Comet 4 Jet Aircraft', which departed Nairobi at 3:35 (GMT+3), made stops only in Khartoum and Rome, and arrived in London at 14.15 (GMT+1). The total flight time for this option was just slightly under 13 hours. A breakfast and a main meal were served on the flight. Comet 4 Flight BA122 (Wednesday), another possibility, had the same flight time of slightly under 13 hours.

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/ba60/ba60-12.jpg

Images of the BOAC air routes (world & africa respectively), published April 24, 1960:

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/ba60/ba60-13.jpg

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/ba62/ba62-36.jpg

Speculation regarding the possible flight by Ann Dunham with her new baby boy, BHO-II, in August 1961 from London to Vancouver, Canada, prior to their trip to Seattle, Washington where she started attended night school extension classes at the University of Washington in the Fall Semester.

Based on the April 24, 1960 BOAC schedule (Section: Europe - Britain - Ireland - Canada - USA) linked below, it is possible, for example, that Ann Dunham and her new baby son took Trans Canada Flight TC541 (Wednesday) in August 1961 on a Lockheed ‘Super Constellation’ which departed London (North Side) at 17.00 (GMT +1), made stops in Glasgow, Scotland, Winnepeg, Canada, and arrived in Vancouver at 7.40 (GMT -7) on Thursday morning. Thus, the total flight time for the trip was just slightly under 23 hours.

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/ba60/ba60-02.jpg

[Seizethecarp]

ping to extensive discussion between Fred Nerks and Little Jeremiah fleshing out an alternate “narrative” that Barry is not who he claims to be and the identities of the two little boys (dark and light) and where and when that family picture with BHO Sr. and Ruth was taken. I disagree, but as there is no reliable BC for Barry we don't know, yet, who he is and who his parents were.

FN Comments 28, 59, 60, 62, 64, 69, 80, 84, 88

[DiogenesLamp]

DL: I think you may find this thread highly interesting.

Oh yes! Very much so! The Daily Pen has been doing some very good work. I have already been citing them in arguments. Thanks for the ping.

[Seizethecarp]

“This is probably the application lodged on the very same day the Virginia Sunahara birth/death announcement appeared.”

It is possible that the application looked like the “Blaine BC,” but the Blaine BC has been proved to be a clever forgery. There are administrative notations and partial signature artifacts in the signature fields identical to another HI BC. When the original and Blaine are compared it can be seen that the original signatures were mostly but not completely blocked out leaving tell-tale parts of the original signatures on the Blaine BC, especially in field 19a. This analysis was previously posted on FR.

Looking on the web, the following 2009 link provided the blank template for the Blaine BC where the signature artifacts and stray notations can be seen:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/clearing-the-smoke-june10/

The blank template above was created from the HI LFBC of a person born in HI in the early 1960’s who put their BC on the web, but it has since been removed, it seems.

[LucyT]

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Ping

. . . . Check out # 94.

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[STARWISE]

That excerpt is from this site:

http://themombosanson.blogspot.com/

Scroll down .. eerie.

[Kleon]

Nothing says “authentic” like a Plains Radio watermark.

[bgill]

I am natural-born citizen of the United States because the laws of the state of Hawaii says I am, despite the fact that my natal origins are nowhere near American soil. I could actually run for President, despite being born abroad, under the same circumstances Barack Obama was."

Even if you were born in the Lincoln bedroom without a US citizen father, you aren't a NBC.

[bgill]

The United States did not recognize polygamy in 1961.

Didn't Kenya? Also, was Kesiah's marriage legally recorded or was it more of a tribal ceremony, jump the broom, or a hey let's shack up free cow's milk thing?

[bgill]

The only thing that holds me to believing Sr. is the father is the lying gene that was passed down through the Kenyan tribe.