Posted on 03/13/2012 3:39:58 PM PDT by rxsid
“Are you suggesting that Barack is a bastard?”
BHO, Sr. was still legally married to a woman in Kenya when he “married” Stanley Ann Dunham, so his marriage to SAD was, according to U.S. law, invalid. Thus, according to U.S. laws BHO, Sr. and SAD were not not legally (validly) married at the time of BHO “The Obastard’s” birth.
my head's spinning...if that's true, then it stands to reason the names of the 'parents' are also meaningless, he could have obtained the same document if Minnie Mouse was the name used for his mother and Karl Marx his father, right?
Many of us (including the suspecions of the INS) assume Sr. was still married to Kezia in 1960/1961.
However, has any proof of that actually ever surfaced?
Even IF we assume he was still married to Kezia...how do we know that the marriage to SAD would have been considered bigamous? Knowing what kind of person she was, are we certain that she had no knowledge of another (unproven) marriage? If she knew about it...that would make it a polygamou marriage. Does that change the legality?
From what little I've looked into it, or could find regarding polygamy and 1961 HI, it appears that it (polygamy) may not have been outlawed: http://law.jrank.org/pages/11834/Annulment-Prohibited-Marriage-Prohibited-Marriage.html
See post #23.
The United States did not recognize polygamy in 1961.
Also, do you have proof that Sr's first marriage was still active in 1960/61? Or, are you assuming like most of us are?
Would be nice to have links / proof instead of hearsay.
Thanks.
Very astute question. We are shown here how easy it is for a foreign born child to obtain a certification of live birth in Hawaii. Even the name of the parents need not be right, and where the mother gave birth need not be shown apparently...neither is any confirmation from a delivering doctor or midwife required...all she had to do was make a statement she had resided in one place in Hawaii for a certain period of time.
A father? Just fill in the appropriate line, and there you have it. 'Proof' of birth in Hawaii on any date you wish to name.
So why the need for a fake? I have an idea...it's got to have something to do with the 'application' lodged on the same date as the birth/death announcement for Virginia Sunahara appeared in the Hawaii papers, it's got to have something to do with a birth certificate for Virginia that would show the same number as zero is using...and the fact that who-ever lodged that application showed his birthplace as Kenya.
Why Kenya? Kenya was a ruse. Because if we could now see the overseas airline arrivals between August 1, 1961 and August 9, 1961, we would see the real names of his parents (or discover who brought him into the US) and discover what country he really came from. His name wasn't BHO2 until after he landed at that airport.
From Wikipedia (I know, not the most reliable source, but I’m trying to locate the definitive common law and case law on the issue, as it’s been years since I read it in school):
Polygamy, in particular polygyny where one man takes several wives, is a common marriage pattern in some parts of the world. However, in the United States polygamy has never been a culturally normative or legally recognized institution. In Canada, polygamy laws are written in a slightly different way than in the USA. However, all provinces adhere to the federal Criminal Code of Canada which makes polygamy an offense and punishable by up to five years in prison.
Polygamy became a significant social and political issue in the United States in 1852, when The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) made it known that a form of the practice, called plural marriage, was part of its doctrine. Opposition to the practice by the United States government resulted in an intense legal conflict, and culminated in LDS Church president Wilford Woodruff announcing the church’s official abandonment of the practice on September 25, 1890.[1] However, breakaway Mormon fundamentalist groups living mostly in the western United States, Canada, and Mexico still practice plural marriage. A very small minority of American Muslims also practice polygamy.[2]
Bigamy is the act or condition of a person marrying another person while still being lawfully married to a second person and it is illegal in the United States. The crime is punishable either by a fine, imprisonment, or both, according to the law of the individual state and the circumstances of the offense.[4]
According to the Model Penal Code (section 230.1) bigamy is a misdemeanor, but having more than one spouse at the same time is a felony if it is done “in purported exercise of a plural marriage...” According to Joel Feinberg in Moral Limits of the Criminal Law, “Righteously flaunting one’s illicit relationships, according to the Code, is apparently a morally aggravating circumstance, more punishable than its clandestine and deceptive counterpart.”[5]
The Model Penal Code allows people to use an honest belief that they are only married to one person as a defense against a charge of bigamy. However, many US courts (e.g., Turner v. S., 212 Miss. 590, 55 So.2d 228) treat bigamy as a strict liability crime: in some jurisdictions a person can be convicted of a felony even if reasonably certain there was only one legal spouse. For example, if a person has the mistaken belief that their previous spouse is dead or that their divorce is final, they can still be convicted of bigamy if they marry a new person.[6]
NOT lodged by Madelyn Dunham, she would have known how to spell her own name and the name of the street.
This is probably the application lodged on the very same day the Virginia Sunahara birth/death announcement appeared.
A Kenya birth would not have presented a problem at the time, but the combination of the certification number and the place of birth - required a forgery imo.
NOT lodged by Madelyn Dunham, she would have known how to spell her own name and the name of the street.
This could be the 'half-typed, half-written' document.
" §572-1 Requisites of valid marriage contract.
...
(3) The man does not at the time have any lawful wife living and that the woman does not at the time have any lawful husband living;"
But I've not found the HI law as of 1961.
Also, I've not found proof that would refute the Circuit Court of the First Judicial Circuit State of Hawaii, which considered them legally married.
Do you have proof that Sr. was still married to Kezia in 1961?
sorry about the double post...
-PJ
Me no FB .. ;)
Rxsid .. this should go to Sheriff Joe ..
Fred, more rocks overturned .. more sunlight ..
pray it’s ALL exposed in our lifetimes .. ;)
Speculating .. was the Kezia marriage accepted as a legal and official marriage in Kenya that was so accepted as a legal marriage to the US ? Yes, Harvard tossed him due to concern about his morals .. of which he possessed NONE. The smoke, mirrors, plots, subplots, fictional/real characters, diversions and distractions are unending... and intentional me thinks. My head still hurts ...
But if the DailyPen’s and Mombosan’s writings are true .. whew! Again .. we’re at the same juncture: WHO will have the spine of steel, the fortitude, patience and resources to see it through?
Aside from ‘Dreams’ all there is about the marriage to Kezia is a bunch of conflicting stories from the Kenya clan, some say they married when he was 18, some say they married in 1957, Kezia at one time says Malaik was six years old when the kenyan left in 1959, and others say he was two years of age. His teacher at the Maseono school pulled out the records for the kenyan and his older brother, who left the school before the second-eldest son of a kenyan goat herder (and imprisoned Mau Mau member) did...and that older brother hasn’t surfaced since. His name was Joseph.
The teacher said that Barack Hussein Obama Onyango left Kenya to go to the US as soon as he finished school...his brother was two years older. The age of the kenyan student who applied for scholarships varies between 25 and 27 when he completes his applications and when he’s interviewed by the newspapers in Hawaii.
And you want to know if he was married to Kezia? Ask ‘granny’ Sarah...when it came time to make claims against the estate of the foreign student who was then married to Ruth, it was ‘granny’ Sarah who told the children of Kezia...NONE OF YOU ARE HIS CHILDREN.
And Joseph, whose arabic name would have been YUSUF is now shown as being born ‘circa 1950’s’ when, if you do the math, it was Joseph/Yusuf who was the older brother born in 1934...so why on earth would the kenyan student use his half-brother’s birthyear?
There’s nothing hangs together in this myth.
We are like little children in comparison to the cabal that set up this deception. That there are so many who still believe the myth of ‘Dreams’ tends to prove it. It’s been what ? four years of back and forth, and there are STILL people who believe a black native kenyan met a little white girl from Kansas, they fell in love in Hawaii and married - and she gave birth to zero...
Guess it’s more comforting than having to deal with the fact that no one knows who his parents are, or where he came from.
If you look back at Fukino's actual statement she said he was a "natural born American Citizen" NOT a "natural born U.S. Citizen". (If he were born in Canada he would be an American citizen, but not a U.S. Citizen) Legal weasel words.
No. There is reference to a marriage in the divorce papers, but I've never seen documentation from any of the official records that have been posted.
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