DEA "Speaking Out Against Drug Legalization" - a rebuttal

(self) | March 13, 2012 | (self)

[DiogenesLamp]

Platzspitz? Looks more like the Spitzplatz.

Who would have thought that people who don't respect themselves wouldn't respect a public place either?
:)

[philman_36]

The whole WOsD is a farce.

There is no such thing as an illegal drug. There are only controlled substances.

The drugs themselves are not illegal. What one does with those drugs is what is illegal.

Once the government legislates what you can't put into your body
they will then start to legislate what you must put into your body.

I'm an adult, not a child! I neither need, nor want, the government telling me what to do in every aspect of my life.
That's why there is a Ninth Amendment to the Constitution.

I look forward to any replies.

[philman_36]

@I am AGAINST the legalization of drugs.
It is a Libertarian idea, not a conservative one.
What do you base your assertion upon?

[JRandomFreeper]

America needs more unfettered access to a wider array of poisons.

What other fetters would you like to put on Americans?

I dislike control freaks, right or left.

/johnny

[philman_36]

America needs more unfettered access to a wider array of poisons.
Poppycock! Americans already have unfettered access to a wide array of poisons. If you don't believe me then just go look under your kitchen sink at the multitude of cleaning supplies there.
Are you going to tell me that some of those things aren't poisonous?

Or were being euphemistic? That's not very smart if you were.
It means you believe the whole issue, pro or con, isn't worthy of discussion.

[philman_36]

Edit - Or were you being euphemistic?

[JRandomFreeper]

What this completely misses is that under Art 1, Sec 8 of the United States Constitution, supreme law of the land.... congress assembled has no authority granted to regulate drugs.

That's up to the states or the people.

/johnny

[philman_36]

One single example of a person getting their head blown off is plenty enough information to decide that the same thing will happen to someone else who sticks their head in a cannon.

If the person was in a battle formation hundreds of yards away from the cannon when their head got blown off then how can you compare the two incidents as being similar or the same when they were completely separate circumstances?

[philman_36]

My recollection is that legal alcohol kills ~ 50,000 people per year. Isn't that a small sacrifice to pay for it? Only 50,000 dead people? (per year) Yes, we certainly need another bunch of substances to add to the death rate.

Then automobiles, though not a substance and by using your standards, need to be outlawed as well as they're almost as deadly with about 40,000+ deaths a year IIRC.

[philman_36]

I found the most interesting things when I looked up the image location of that pic...
@http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dmDHh7gwpa4/SdSfis20SQI/AAAAAAAABr8/0mAWo8ATyuU/s800/AAAA.jpg
4 returns.

[philman_36]

From 1994 and you're trying to depict it as modern day? For shame! That's almost 20 years old!

[CodeToad]

We have the same thing all over the US. They’re called “crack houses”, public housing, etc. Ours may not be as public in most cases but we do have our own parks for addicts, too.

[G Larry]

I was being euphemistic AND sarcastic!

...and YOU missed a PRONOUN!!!

You must be evil incarnate!!!!

[Lurker]

Your Chinese example is meaningless. For the first 100 years of American history opium was completely legal yet nowhere near 50% of the population was addicted.

And the entire discussion of that subject is completely academic as there’s absolutely no authority anywhere in the US Constitution for the Federal government to regulate what adults put into their bodies. None whatsoever.

Anyone arguing otherwise is as liberal as Obama. Period.

[philman_36]

Well I'm glad you got that out of your system.
So...In light of my point about the cleaning supplies under your kitchen sink, or wherever it is that you keep your cleaning supplies, do you still stand by your earlier statement or would you like to rephrase it?

[G Larry]

You have no “point”, only distractions.

[DiogenesLamp]

@I am AGAINST the legalization of drugs. It is a Libertarian idea, not a conservative one. What do you base your assertion upon?

Oh, several things. For one, the Libertarians are always the ones I end up arguing with over it. For another, the legalization of drugs has always been a part of their political platform. For a third, it is consistent with the tenets of their philosophy.

[DiogenesLamp]

If the person was in a battle formation hundreds of yards away from the cannon when their head got blown off then how can you compare the two incidents as being similar or the same when they were completely separate circumstances?

Letting an epidemic of poison spread through your society is more closely analogous to sticking your head in a cannon and firing it. In my opinion, it is virtually guaranteed to cause a collapse.

[DiogenesLamp]

Then automobiles, though not a substance and by using your standards, need to be outlawed as well as they're almost as deadly with about 40,000+ deaths a year IIRC.

The vast majority of such deaths that are not ordinary accidents, are caused by drunk drivers. Apart from that, the utility of Automobiles is so valuable to our population that we would be willing to tolerate an even higher death rate than that.

Toleration of ordinary vehicular accidents is unavoidable, and is therefore necessary.

[DiogenesLamp]

I found the most interesting things when I looked up the image location of that pic...
@http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dmDHh7gwpa4/SdSfis20SQI/AAAAAAAABr8/0mAWo8ATyuU/s800/AAAA.jpg 4 returns.

Your link doesn't seem to do anything when I click on it. What did you find? What do you mean by "4 returns."?