Tony Bennett Gets One Right

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[ansel12]

Libertarians are deep like hard left intellectuals. They both live in childish fantasy worlds that they cherry-pick to create an delusional dream state, and they write out perfect worlds that dissolve in the face of reality.

[ansel12]

Libertarians fight for the same social destruction as the left.

America’s most libertarian Supreme Court? The widely described, and despised by conservatives, “Libertarian Earl Warren Court”.

[Gene Eric]

>> How many miscarriages?

Numerous. And they also kill canines with extreme prejudice.

>> I would like to make clear that there is nothing “conservative” about ...

The convergence of Conservatism and Statism is regrettably significant. I doubt the majority of self-described Conservatives would feel at home under the Liberty of original law.

[nathanbedford]

Ansell: I reacted to your post #9:

That guy never varies his song, he is always pushing liberalism. Now he want (sic) legal dope.

Because I wanted to stake out a position that "legal dope" is not necessarily a liberal position but a libertarian position and it should be a conservative position (at least on the federal level). In other words, I do not want to passively accede to definitions of liberalism, conservatism or libertarianism which I do not believe are true.

To that end, I try to draw our attention to the fundamental precepts which inspired conservatism rather than simply making ad hominem about how dreadful libertarians are.

In other words, name calling does not advance our understanding very far. One could as easily call the founding fathers libertarians as the Warren court.

[ansel12]

God this childish game playing is boring, the left and libertarians are on the same team, destroy social conservatism, and they have ruined our nation with their successes of the last 60 years.

The difference is that the libertarian social liberals are so incredibly preachy and superior acting as they promote the same goals as the rest of the left, as though they are preaching the Holy word of the social conservative God himself while they promote dope and homosexuality and porn, open borders and the rest of it.

The open leftist says let’s legalize drugs and have homosexual marriage, and porn because it is fun and kinky. The libertarian says let’s legalize drugs and have homosexual marriage, and porn because the people who founded this nation would want us to, it was their Holy Writ.

The founding generations would lynch all you guys for your nonsense.

[nathanbedford]

By your logic modern conservatism must advocate for the restoration of prohibition. I deny you the power to so define conservatism.

[ansel12]

LOL, no, you sound like my kid with that ridiculous prohibition argument.

The Middle East is cannabis based for thousands of years, they will be supporting the left and libertarians on the doper position as they keep immigrating here.

[nathanbedford]

Ansell:

Here are quotes from your last four posts. Resort to the ad hominem betrays a weakness of argument:

you sound like my kid with that ridiculous prohibition argument.

The founding generations would lynch all you guys for your nonsense.

Libertarians are deep like hard left intellectuals. They both live in childish fantasy worlds that they cherry-pick to create an delusional dream state, and they write out perfect worlds that dissolve in the face of reality.

With reasoning like that, it is no wonder that the left and libertarians have driven this nation into the ground.

[ansel12]

Lol, gee, I guess no one will pass me the joint now, or is it a needle.

[nathanbedford]

The difference is that the libertarian social liberals are so incredibly preachy and superior acting

… Ansell12

[FerociousRabbit]

At least politicians realized the Constitutional limits placed on the federal government at one point in our history. They actually felt it necessary to pass the 18th Amendment to prohibit the sale of alcohol.

That day, when the Constitution was seen as a limiting power upon the federal government, is now, unfortunately, behind us and politicians can dictate what extra-Constitutional limits upon the freedoms of individuals they will.

“Social conservatives” fully support ignoring the Constitution when it suits their purpose, no different from Progressives. They also try to equate libertarians with the far left which shows an incredible lack of knowledge about either.