Posted on 12/21/2011 6:31:32 PM PST by SteelTrap
Absolutely! But if we’re going to answer the muzzie ‘chicken and egg’ question might as well go back to the first instance. That would be Mohammed himself. He set the doctrine and it has never varied.
(the U.S. has never bombed Iran in all of history for those in Rio Linda)
The quote I find attributed to Ron Paul is:
"Radical Muslims don't hate us because of our values; they hate us because we're bombing them."
I hate it when I forget to check “View Replys” before I jump in with a comment.
He has said something like that a million times so I’m sure the wording has changed in numerous variations. I was quoting him from the recent debate.
Fine and well. Having spent considerable time working on and around naval nuclear powerplants, I would have no issues with that. As long as you had the same shielding and failsafes that, at the least, the older S5W plants had. Also, since the enrichment of uranium for power generation is much less than that for weapons-grade material, I’m sure you will accept inspections to verify both proper storage of spent fuel rods AND for degree of enrichment.
You DO recall that I said I don’t favor ANYONE, governments included, owning nuclear weapons, don’t you? I know that’s not realistic, of course, but weapons of mass destruction are off the table for any form of new ownership, public or private, so far as I’m concerned. In that respect I differ from Dr. Paul.
However, if you look back in our history, private ownership of artillery and naval vessels, among other useful things, was quite instrumental in our eventual triumph over George III, as much as was our treaty with France. Excepting ONLY WMDs, I very much favor private ownership of ANY weapon or weapons system some person or group of persons wants and can afford, safe storage and whatnot included, of course. I even have my own wishlist; what I lack is the purchase price and a place to store some of the larger pieces I want.
I get this from the FOX News Iowa Debate on Thursday December 15, 2011,
10:12 p.m. - "Obviously, I would like to see a lot less nuclear weapons, but to declare war on 1.2 billion Muslims and to say all Muslims are the same is dangerous," Paul said. "That is absurd. They come here and they want to do us harm because we're bombing them. Why were we flying the drone over Iran? Why do we have to have 900 bases in 130 countries? I think this wild goal to have another war in the name of defense is the dangerous thing, the danger is us over-reacting."
I think the comment is directed at Muslims in general, and not Iran specifically.
Since no one of any political repute has ever proposed that that statement is utterly insane.
They come here and they want to do us harm because we're bombing them.
Since the muzzies have been attacking us and others long before we had any influence in the ME that statement is utterly insane.
Why were we flying the drone over Iran?
No sane person would ask that question and then base other comments on the assertion that we don't know whether they have a nuclear program or not.
Why do we have to have 900 bases in 130 countries?
Since the vast majority of those bases are not in Muslim countries that statement is insane.
I think this wild goal to have another war in the name of defense is the dangerous thing, the danger is us over-reacting."
Since no credible politician or military commander has ever said that war with Iran is a goal that statement is utterly insane and tremendously irresponsible.
One short paragraph is a gold mine of lunacy.
I don't care what you think I care what RP said. The context of the conversation was specifically Iran. If RP is so scatterbrained that he can't keep his comments in context in a national debate for the presidency he is clearly too unstable to hold office.
The statement says 1.2 Billion Muslims. There are 1.2 Billion Muslims in the world. Iran has a population of 78 million. Regardless of what you think, he was speaking about Muslims in general, not Iran.
Regardless of what you think the context of the discussion was Iran. The fact that he can’t keep from babbling on out of context on every stray thought that runs through his head means he’s unstable.
I agree the context of the discussion was about Iran, but the specific statement was about Muslims in general.
And even then it is an insane statement.
You clearly have a reading comprehension problem, as I said nothing even remotely of the sort. Please go back and try again. Then again, I probably don't want to continue this conversation, because I'm beginning to see a pattern of you misquoting people.
Thank you, it’s refreshing to see some intellectual honesty here, instead of underhanded attempts to smear someone by purposely twisting what they’re saying.
I’m done with. You’re a liar.
Either show me were I lied, or just admit that you completely misunderstood my post. It's ok, that happens. When it happened twice in a row (with RP's comment and my post) I was just beginning to wonder if that misunderstanding was sincere or intentional.
That is a lie I never said that. Get lost, liar.
I'll bold the pertinent point.
You:
Like speaking on Iran..."They hate us because we're bombing them." - Ron Paul
(the U.S. has never bombed Iran in all of history for those in Rio Linda)
You've been saying over and over that Ron Paul was talking about Iran specifically. Are you changing your tune now?
This entire conversation is ridiculous. Stop going back and forth.
Regardless of what you think the context of the discussion was Iran. The fact that he can’t keep from babbling on out of context on every stray thought that runs through his head means he’s unstable.
It's not my fault that Ron Paul can't stay on topic, can't formulate a clear thought and loses his temper like a deranged old woman.
Anyway, I don't think we need to beat a dead horse here. I'm sorry if I was a little too hard on you, and by the way - all of this is off topic to the original topic of the thread. So I'm going to let it get back to that.
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