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Flash mobs in an armed populace ? (Vanity)
Self | 8/11/11 | Celerity

Posted on 08/11/2011 1:48:27 PM PDT by Celerity

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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You don't need to fire the gun to prevent a crime.

Not normally, but riots and flash mobs are not "normal".

161 posted on 08/16/2011 12:23:12 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: dangerdoc
Tell the 911 operator that you have already shot a perp and see what the response time is.

In a situation of widespread riots and looting, it will still be plenty long. They'll have bigger fish to fry than a downed perp.

162 posted on 08/16/2011 12:32:35 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: The KG9 Kid
You cannot 'stand your ground' when the property you're standing on is not *your* ground.

You can protect the lives and property of others, in the same way and under the same circumstances you can protect your own.. in Texas that is. YMMV. Doesn't mean it's a Good Idea. Sometimes it will be, some times it won't, but then the same applies to protecting your own property. We had an incident in Texas a few years ago where a guy shot two perps coming out of his neighbors house, right in front of a plainclothes cop and while being advised by the 911 operator to stay in his own house. The Grand Jury returned a No Bill, in spite of the protestations of the usual noisemakers, who shut up once they found out the perps were illegal aliens, and not "their people".

163 posted on 08/16/2011 12:42:43 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: MediaMole
Legally, I can’t shoot someone to defend someone else’s property.

In your state perhaps, but not in all. Not in mine. It's been done, in a very "public" manner, and the grand jury returned a No Bill, because the law was not broken.

164 posted on 08/16/2011 12:50:22 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Celerity
So if the proper response to these situations is “Do nothing / maintain defensive perimeter around innocents” and “Run / hide”... Then how will gun ownership curtail the flash mobs and rioters ?

Don't assume you will always be successful at running away and hiding. If it curtails their ability to beat you into a dribbling vegetable or jack up a woman your with, that's good enough. I don't intend to engage in heroics and will be looking for a way out. You're correct in thinking that there will not be enough citizens armed and ready to stack the sub-cretinous vermin like cord wood until CWII.

165 posted on 08/16/2011 1:05:26 AM PDT by Stentor ( "All cults of personality begin as high drama and end as low comedy.")
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To: El Gato

It’s the same way in Oklahoma if you’re inside your house, but if you were in a store somewhere and people start ransacking the place, then it gets dicey.


166 posted on 08/16/2011 6:05:24 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: El Gato
"... You can protect the lives and property of others, in the same way and under the same circumstances you can protect your own.. in Texas that is."

You can do that here too, but forget that crap.

It would have to be an extreme circumstance for me to go skinning my pistol from it's holster and go charging into combat.

167 posted on 08/16/2011 12:08:00 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
It would have to be an extreme circumstance for me to go skinning my pistol from it's holster and go charging into combat.

The gentleman in question used a shotgun. In a large scale rioting situation, you use your pistol to get to your long guns. If such are occurring anywhere near me, like in the same county or metro area, I'll start carrying the carbine and/or shotgun in the trunk.

168 posted on 08/17/2011 8:31:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Long guns, sidearms, nevertheless the issue was coming to the aid of someone else with your own arms.

The circumstances that would compel me to cross the line into self-appointed heroic vigilantism would have to be so extraordinary that the incident would have to cause me to be reviled nationally if it was determined that I could have 'done something', but I chose not to.

That will never happen in my lifetime. If the riots come to urban America when the government's free stuff finally runs out, I'll be safely watching it happen on the teevee many hundreds of miles away from the nearest incident in seclusion.

Now, defending myself and family, I almost expect something like that to happen eventually. Seems more likely every day, based upon how obvious it is that our society is slipping into barbarism.

I understand the points you're making, though.

169 posted on 08/17/2011 11:48:08 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: All

If the riots come Ill be safe in my house in the woods of southern WV with a ruger M4 carbine, 2-glocks, a sack full of loaded glock mags and a shotgun. And thats just MY guns. We havent talked about the rest of the familys heat. Did I mention a pound dog that will bite your testes off if you look like a threat to us? 8-)


170 posted on 08/18/2011 5:11:32 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous
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To: Armedanddangerous
I don't own any guns, knives, or dogs...

Am I okay???

171 posted on 08/18/2011 5:14:09 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: call meVeronica
As long as you subscribe to them....you are good.

You can only tell others these things....whether or not they take them to heart is another thing.

172 posted on 08/18/2011 5:19:13 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Osage Orange

well Id say so if youre not caught in the riot


173 posted on 08/18/2011 6:04:59 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous
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