Posted on 07/27/2011 3:58:09 PM PDT by charlene4
Billy Ayers has never been that heavy in his adult life. Look at the right profile ... now Newman from Seinfeld, well ...
My sister teaches school right outside DC. She has students from about everywhere in the world. I showed her the pic above of Maya and asked her what nationality she saw. She imediately thought Middle Eastern. I agree,although I could also guess Hispanic to some degree.
Man! What a messed up family!
Madeline would have been 36-38 in the years 1958-1960, not too young to conceive a child I don’t think.
Even though there is some resemblance to X, I just don’t see any similar personality traits between the two when they are speaking off the teleprompter.
Ann was “no beach bunny” as Neil Abercrombie says, and Madeline has been shown to have been a floozy, therefore If I was going to go with X, then I would go with X & Madeline, before X & Ann.
Due to Madeline’s flooziness, not even Barack Obama Sr & Madeline can be ruled out, but I’m still going with Madeline & FMD.
They say *it takes one to know one* so I hate to say I think SAD was a Flooz, BUT, I do think she was! (not necisarily a bad thing lol)
If Mad was that young, then I guess that is a real possibility. I always question the two statements that SAD showed up in Wash a few weeks after birth not knowing how to change a diaper and that pic of her on the beach sure did not look like she just had a baby.
Maybe if we ever see the real BC our questions will be answered.
Maya was blabbing for a while then she disapeared and shut the flow of her info. All crazy!
“You know,” Ralph says, “he looks exactly like Stanley. He looks exactly like my brother, only he’s dark.”’
That could be what I had read, though I thought it was a comment from the Aunt in Arkansas. Anyways, my point is still pretty good. Someone who should know better than anyone says he looks exactly like Stanley Dunham.
Found it. Yeah, I remembered it wrong. Here's the link and here is the quote:
http://www.sherwoodvoice.com/articles/2008/11/14/maumelle_monitor/living/liv01.txt
"Goeldner said that she was proud of her nephew and that she could see so much of his mother in him. "
Using this logic, since there are no records available of any of Obama’s transcripts we can assume Obama never attended any classes his entire life.
Obama has gone to great lengths to conceal almost all records of his life. Obama must have legally changed his name, this strongly suggests he was adopted. His step sister has said that Lolo adopted him.
Your theory of a “casual adoption” is possible but the most likely case is that Lolo adopted him.
Good points! I forgot Maya also said Lolo did adopt him. Why would she lie?
It is not even a question, Lolo adopted bo and he was an Indonesian citizen. He went by the name Soetoro and lied on his Barr appliocation. He has lied everywhere he went and lies everytime he opens his mouth. Until there is proof otherwise, I do not believe anything he says.
Theonly people who don’t want to disclose the truth..............
Well, pacific islanders have a different quality to their ethnicity, all the way to Indonesia. And some even do have Africanlike features, like Samoans, etc. Not LoLo though. Not any Indonesians, really. And half of maya’s genes come from a very bland looking Caucasian. So she looks kind of “ethnic” without being able to pin down from where. Remember that many mestizos, from American Indians to central Americans, look quite Asian. That is because they are.
I tease a friend of mine who is of Korean ancestry and married a caucasian, that her Asian genes are weak, lol. Her kids look so much like her husband, only one of 5 looks pretty Asian. Sometimes mixed races will surprise you with their phenotype of one or then other parent.
“Using this logic, since there are no records available of any of Obama’s transcripts we can assume Obama never attended any classes his entire life.”
Nope, not the same logic. People did take classes with Obama in Hawaii, at Oxy, and at Harvard. No one is sure about Columbia.
But no one knows if Lolo adopted him or not. Maybe he did; someone said if the stepchild is under 5 in Indonesia it’s an automatic adoption. We don’t know.
He looks like Stanley “Gramps” Dunham. Same long, horse face Jan Leno chin. Gramps humps the black barmaid, maybe FMD made it a 3 some and Barry is the result. However, that makes him a NBC but it also makes him the biggest liar on the face of this earth and his entire past that he created and put out there is a sham.
I don’t think Stanley Anne is the mother.
Just finished reading your great link (print version):
http://www.sherwoodvoice.com/articles/2008/11/14/maumelle_monitor/living/liv01.prt
What the ???????!!!!!!!, did you see these statements?
1. “Goeldner said her sister-in-law actually raised Barrack Obama, or Barry as they called him, when he was young, after his mother died in 1970.”
2. “When Ann died at an early age, it was Virginia’s brother and sister-in-law who raised the future president.”
3. “Obama’s grandfather, Stanley, left Kansas and moved to Texas and it was in the Seattle area where his mother Stanley Ann Dunham, WAS BORN.”
4.”Stanley Armour Dunham, who was Barack Obama’s grandfather, who died in 1982;”
I think the Ann Dunham as Barry’s mom story just took a serious hit.
I began to become suspicious of the Stan Dunham as Barry’s grandfather after reading ‘Pioneers: The Frontier Family of Barack Obama’ by Stephen MacDonogh.
In this book there was about 200 worthless pages on Stan Dunham’s family tree and less than 2 pages on Madeline’s family tree and included a chapter titled ‘Carnival of Reaction in America: Birthers, Tea Parties and Racists.’
My suspicions increased after seeing the comments to the Huffington Post article:
Stanley Dunham’s WWII Experience: AP Portrait by Nancy Benac:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/30/stanley-dunhams-wwii-expe_n_209385.html?view=print
Here are just a few of many similar COMMENTS:
MorpheusXNYC 11:33 PM on 5/30/2009
I was just about to say that! He has the same eyes and ears. It’s freaky. :-D
truelie 01:47 AM on 5/31/2009
Yeah, Obama does look like his grandpa, especially the chin and facial contour. Too bad his grandma left a bit too early. It would be nice to see her at the White House with the other grandma. What a story! Only in America!
Patricia84 10:43 PM on 5/30/2009
He looks just like his grand father!
mike39 10:36 PM on 5/30/2009
Strong resemblanc¬e to his grandfathe¬r, which I missed at first. After reading other comments I went back to picture and it jumped out at me! Too bad he died relatively young.
hapaglloyd 10:02 PM on 5/30/2009
Wow ,he looks just like his grandfathe¬r ,especiall¬y around the eyes and forehead.
hapaglloyd 10:10 PM on 5/30/2009
Let me amend my post to say ,his whole face looks like his grandad,I just took a second look.
Freddiejr 10:40 PM on 5/30/2009
Yes he does! Wow!
boycottrightwingthings 11:11 PM on 5/30/2009
Our presideent is the spitting image of his grandfahte¬r...how can you not see it?? The nose is just a little different, and of course, our president is darker, but the resemblean¬ce is uncanny.
Toutlaguerre 11:41 AM on 5/31/2009
I thought the same thing as soon as I saw this picture. In the past I used to think that he strongly resembled his Kenyan grandmothe¬r but after this picture. I am sold on him being the splitting image of his grandfather.
Immhotep 09:52 PM on 5/30/2009
Remarkable resemblanc¬e to his grand daddy!
boycottrightwingthings 09:48 PM on 5/30/2009
President Obama does look just like his grandfathe¬r! Very handsome men.
Chicago48 09:20 PM on 5/30/2009
Obama looks like his grandfathe¬r.
Janet Carter 09:17 PM on 5/30/2009
I am amazed how much the President looks like his Grandpa. Same facial structure and ears. Very handsome men.
lsbskins1 09:53 PM on 5/30/2009
Yes, when I saw the picture, I thought, “Well, now we know where those ears came from.” He does look very much like his grandfathe¬r.
Sportswoman 08:14 PM on 5/30/2009
I AGREE with those who stated the President resembles his grandpa. Aren’t genes amazing?
(My son and his cousin look identical.¬) I’d bet he also inherited some of that can-do attitude , as well.
Chicago48 09:20 PM on 5/30/2009
Me too Obama looks like his granddad. As much as he wants to identify with his African roots, his father was barely there. His grandparen¬ts raised him.
kissMYfish 07:33 PM on 5/30/2009
He looks like his grandfathe¬r. His grand dad was a very good-looki¬ng man.
BlackYowe 06:54 PM on 5/30/2009
He looks allot like his Grandpa! Very cool story.
Altruth 07:16 PM on 5/30/2009
Agree!
Pleneras 06:01 PM on 5/30/2009
The President has his grandfathe¬r face:
Abby1 06:52 PM on 5/30/2009
You are absolutely right, he looks just like his grandfathe¬r.
jeniferdaniels 05:49 PM on 5/30/2009
wow, he looks like a tanned Stanley! i love the prez and stop hating below me
MyThought 05:32 PM on 5/30/2009
Shape of head/chin, etc. - he looks like him
blkbtrfly1 05:20 PM on 5/30/2009
Handsome man. Great story. I see where the pres gets the ears.
Aaryck 04:58 PM on 5/30/2009
that’s amazing. he looks just like his grandfathe¬r but dark of course!! :)
Ellyllon 04:46 PM on 5/30/2009
Wow! Obama looks so much like him! I’ve noticed it before, but in this picture, the resemblanc¬e is particular¬ly strong.
widdles 04:42 PM on 5/30/2009
Wow! I see such a strong resemblanc¬e between the President and his Grandfathe¬r!! Amazing!
Goeldner said her sister-in-law actually raised Barrack Obama, or Barry as they called him, when he was young, after his mother died in 1970.
Also what is this about Lolo being Hawaiian?
This is the first time I saw either of those statements! Interested in responses to this crazy crap!!
1970 was the year Maya was born. This would mean Maya could never have remembered Stanley Ann and all Maya's stories about her mother are deliberate falsefications. Who took care of Maya?
1970 is also the year Barry Soetoro supposedly enrolled in the elite and expensive Punahou Academy in Hawaii. Yet according to the article he was thousands of miles away.
The famous airport pictures of Barack, Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. were taken in December 1971 or January 1972 when Barack Obama Sr. went back to Hawaii. All Obama biographies and Dreams from My Father talk about this supposed reunion of Obama Sr. and Jr. and Stanley Ann. Now it turns out Stanley Ann was dead and Barack Jr. was not even in Hawaii.
The many narratives of Obama’s life just get more and more crazy.
Hmm.I’ve often assumed Bark’ys “grandfather” Stanley Armour Dunham...was his father based upon resemblance...and that Stanley Armour was actually a low level alphabet agency field hand assigned to chase commies around the country.
In the mid-1900’s many “American families” had members in the OSS/CIA...and the midwest Armour family (meat-packers out of CHICAGO) certainly qualifies.
If I recall properly, this is based on a quibble about whether Stanley Ann ever went by the name "Ann" (Though both Barack's Book and her Aunt Virginia Goeldner indicate that she did) and a vague reference to a wife in the Philippines. Also a reference in that Article in Arkansas that says barry was adopted after his mother died or something.
From my perspective, that is all too weak to hang anything on, and is likewise in conflict with a lot of other known information. The suggestion that people such as Susan Blake, (and that other woman) lying about seeing Stanley Ann with baby in August of 1961, in addition to Virginia Goeldner not knowing who the mother of her nephew was and mistaking her for a dead woman, is just too much of a stretch to be plausible.
Unless I see better evidence to the contrary, I am going to continue operating under the theory that Stanley Ann is indeed the mother, and that either Barack Sr. or Frank Davis is the likely Father.
1. “Goeldner said her sister-in-law actually raised Barrack Obama, or Barry as they called him, when he was young, after his mother died in 1970.”
2. “When Ann died at an early age, it was Virginia’s brother and sister-in-law who raised the future president.”
3. “Obama’s grandfather, Stanley, left Kansas and moved to Texas and it was in the Seattle area where his mother Stanley Ann Dunham, WAS BORN.”
4.”Stanley Armour Dunham, who was Barack Obama’s grandfather, who died in 1982;”
I think the Ann Dunham as Barry’s mom story just took a serious hit.
I don't regard it as such. These points have been mentioned by others. As they require us to believe that Virginia Goeldner didn't know that Stanley Ann was Barry's mother, and that Barry was her nephew (as a result of Stanley Ann Being his mother) then the entire premise of the article referring to the Woman's nephew becoming "President" makes no sense.
For me it is just evidence that the Reporter screwed up the story. Perhaps Goeldner said "His mother left him" and presumed that to mean "she died." I myself have been interviewed by newspaper and television reporters before, and invariably they screw the story up.
If it's an issue, I expect we can contact the newspaper that wrote it and ask to speak to the reporter that did the story for a clarification. In the mean time, I chalk it up to bad reporting and misunderstanding what was said.
The many narratives of Obama’s life just get more and more crazy.
You read far to much into a reporter's interpretation of an Arkansas woman's comment. Virginia Goeldner KNOWS who Barry is. He is her NEPHEW. (Thesis of the Article.) He KNOWS who Barry's mother is. (Her Niece, Stanley Ann.) She KNOWS when Stanley Ann Died. (She mentioned Stanley Ann's job as a anthropologist.) Also, if Stanley Ann is not relevant to the Topic of the article, why mention Stanley Ann at all?
It is the REPORTER who doesn't know who is who and what is what, and if anyone made a mistake, it wasn't Virginia Goeldner, who knows exactly who all the players were, it was the reporter who misunderstood what she said.
As I've mentioned, i've been interviewed by Newspaper and Television reporters before, and they invariably get the story wrong. Usually it's trivial, but sometimes they make big mistakes.
The Explanation that the Arkansas reporter simply got some stuff confused, makes far more sense than inventing new parents for Barry, and killing his mom off early.
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