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Gun Review: Smith & Wesson M&P15 Sport (A brand new AR-15 for $640?)
The Truth About Guns ^ | June 13, 2011 | Benjamin T. Shotzberger

Posted on 07/26/2011 2:23:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Full link to article: http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/06/benjamin-t-shotzberger/%ef%bb%bf-gun-review-smith-and-wesson-mp15-sport/
21 posted on 07/26/2011 6:31:04 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: grobdriver
"....Cabela's on sale: Sale Price: $939.99 - $1,099.99 $640? Seriously? ....."

Bud's Gun Shop has them in stock, free ship, for $592 cash price. Check it out:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_763_977/products_id/71970

22 posted on 07/26/2011 6:31:39 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Logic n' Reason
"....There has got to be one weapon "at the top of the heap" so to speak. What is it?...."

As someone else posted, what really matters is round placement. I absolutely love my Baretta 92 in 9mm because I can accurately shoot it all day long (without hurting my hand) and the gun never jams. Plus it's so cool looking and fun to shoot (did I say that already...?)

23 posted on 07/26/2011 6:38:13 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Victor

Whoops...my mistake...the “in-stock” version at Bud’s in the 10+1 version; the 30+1 round version is *out of stock* but same price. They can put you on a waiting list.


24 posted on 07/26/2011 6:44:56 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Amen... and that is exactly why I have an AR platform in 7.62 NATO as well as several in 5.56. It was muslim fanatics in the Philippines that beta tested the venerable .45 ACP for us. Roped up... doped up muzzies hate that .45! Like you... I have faith in the 5.56 but it does have its limitations.

LLS

25 posted on 07/26/2011 6:45:03 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: mad_as_he$$
You can easily put together a great AR for under $500 by shopping and picking the pieces you want.

Like a Plum Crazy polymer lower?

26 posted on 07/26/2011 7:02:37 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: mad_as_he$$
You can easily put together a great AR for under $500 by shopping and picking the pieces you want.

For someone like me, who has zero experience, and who is looking to buy his first rifle, what are your suggestions for doing it this way?

27 posted on 07/26/2011 7:14:18 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

self-ping for later


28 posted on 07/26/2011 7:17:03 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I also meant to add that I have been to ar-15.com and looked around, I've been to several on-line sites and looked around.

However, I do not really know what I am looking at, even after reading the site, and going through posts.

I'm looking for recommendations on what good products are out there.

Thanks!

29 posted on 07/26/2011 7:17:14 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Yo-Yo

No.

http://www.bing.com/shopping/ar-15-mod4sa-lower-receiver-stripped-mod4sa-ar-15-lower-receiver/p/7EE5D182FE1A5F355003?q=ar+lower&lpq=ar%20lower&FORM=HURE


30 posted on 07/26/2011 7:37:08 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Interesting response...but it didn't answer any of my questions.

Thanks for taking the time tho!!

31 posted on 07/26/2011 7:38:04 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: Victor

Any idea as to the approximate cost of the weapon?


32 posted on 07/26/2011 7:41:55 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: ShadowAce
You have Freep mail.

I look for Shaw barrels. I like them and they work well for me.

Forged lowers are the ticket and you can find them around.
If you want to just get started Midway USA (and others) sell complete kit for about $600.

I bought three Rock River lowers off a guy standing outside the gun show last year. He was going to build them himself and the wife objected. I got all three for $300.

33 posted on 07/26/2011 7:48:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (De Oppresso libre!)
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To: Logic n' Reason
Semi-auto? Revolver?

Check out the Taurus Judge. Amazing ability to carry a myriad of rounds.

If a semi-auto, check out the Kimber Ultra-carry line. They are .45 caliber. May be out of your price range, though. I carry 9mm with hollow points. But I'm in an urban area so background is a concern, hence the hollow points.

If .45 is too much $ and 9mm is too small, check out .40 cal.

As for model, you have to physically hold them and shoot them in order to know what will work for you. Go to a gun store. If they don't spend time with you and really help you, then don't buy from them. They should want a customer for life and be willing to help you out by letting you hold whatever you want and even work with you on the price. Cost of ammo is something to think about as well. Especially if you are going to be practicing a lot.

34 posted on 07/26/2011 7:49:40 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
Now THAT is an answer!!! Thanks so much, Factor!

I really have no preference between a semi-auto and a revolver. I care much more about reliablity in all weather and climate conditions...and how simple it will be to operate and hit what is aimed at during times of high stress, anxiety, and surprise.

I shall take your advice!

My thanks, again!

35 posted on 07/26/2011 7:55:35 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: Logic n' Reason
You could put a revolver in a swamp for a year, come back, load it up and it'll fire with no issue. And they are cheaper. Those are the pros.

The cons of a revolver? They hold less rounds (6 as opposed to a semi-auto that can hold 10 or so) and the MAY be less comfortable to conceal due to the bulge of the cylinder. But recent advances have made revolvers slimmer.

I have less experience with revolver calibers but they come in .45, .357, .44, etc... Lots of stopping power so the extra capacity may not be necessary.

Good luck. Don't be intimidated. Firearms are a tool like any other.

36 posted on 07/26/2011 8:01:57 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
I'll look at both...probably should test fire both. The last time I handled a weapon such as these was in the military...many, many long years ago.

But...given the direction of this country and its failed leadership...I think its high time I prepare myself for ALL eventualities...or at least as many as I can.

37 posted on 07/26/2011 8:14:33 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: Logic n' Reason
It has to be concealable (yay, WI!), it has to have "one shot - one kill" stopping power, it has to be completely reliable (no jams), and it can't be overly expensive ($350 to $600 range).

Glock 30 and Glock 36 in .45 ACP would meet your criteria. The Glock 30 has the advantage that it will accept either the 10-round compact mag (for concealment) or the full-size Glock-21 13-round mag. The Glock 36 is slimmer.

38 posted on 07/26/2011 8:28:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Any ideas as to approximate cost of both models? Also, the approximate cost of the ammunition?


39 posted on 07/26/2011 8:49:42 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: Logic n' Reason

Base retail of either model Glock is around $500.


40 posted on 07/26/2011 9:04:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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