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New Obama Birth Certificate proved Fake with Photoshop (Short Version)
youtube.com ^ | 04/28/2011 | ObamaNewCertIsFake

Posted on 06/26/2011 12:57:41 PM PDT by steadcom

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To: DiogenesLamp

Blake changed her story after coaching and one 0bama supporting witness with a memory she claims to have is not enough to prove anything.


121 posted on 06/28/2011 11:11:17 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: jh4freedom
Rather than a “false choice,” your reply clearly spells out to me that you believe that the entire US governmental system, every branch, both state and federal plus the Fourth Estate and the electorate have responsibility for determining whether a candidate or a president has met the natural born citizen requirements. Thank you for your response.

No argument as to their responsibility. The only thing in question is their competence.

122 posted on 06/28/2011 11:24:14 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: jh4freedom
Hospitals don’t maintain medical records for 50 years for a routine procedure like an uncomplicated birth. The federal law requires storage of medical records for seven years from the date of discharge and the longest that I have ever heard of a hospital maintaining routine medical records is 25 years.

The exception to the above is if there are chronic conditions that require multiple admissions over many years, then the records still exist.

On the bright side, Zero losing on Election Day 2012 is a good thing, right?

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Are saying above that Kapiolani Hospital would not have a single piece of paper or any data in their computer records that says that a Stanley Ann Dunham Obama was a patient there on Aug. 4, 1961, because it has been over 25 years since she was supposed to be a patient there?

If you are correct, then why doesn't President Obama simply allow Kapiolani officials to make a public statement like this one:

"We regret to say that Aug. 4, 1961 is over 25 years ago, so we don't have a single piece of paper or any information in our computer database that says that a Stanley Ann Dunham Obama was ever a patient here on Aug. 4, 1961, because we routinely destroy our patient records that are 25 years old or older."

Now would the statement above be so hard to make by Kapiolani officials?

However, because Kapiolani officials have not yet come out and told us that they destroyed ALL records that are 25 years or older, I can only conclude that the officials still have some Stanley Obama information, or worse, they never had any Stanley Obama information to begin with, because their records shockingly show that Stanley Ann Dunham Obama was NEVER A PATIENT there on Aug. 4, 1961 as President Obama claims.

JUST WONDERING ABOUT PRESIDENT BUSH, THE LAST ONE: Are you telling us that the Connecticut hospital where the last President Bush was born has no record of his birth, because at least 25 years have passed since Bush was born there?

123 posted on 06/28/2011 11:35:39 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: jh4freedom
Article IV, Section 1 is also a Constitutional requirement.

So it is, and it has axiomatic requirements. If a state said that whatever the first drunk they find to scribble on a newspaper is their "official" document, it cannot and will not be accepted under Article IV as such just because a state proclaims it.

In any case, the Axiomatic requirement of Article 2, is proof of compliance, and it need not be a document. Testimony of witness would also suffice. A videotape of the event properly documented would suffice. Proof needn't be a document, but proof is what is indeed required. If the document cannot constitute actual proof, it cannot be used regardless of a bureaucrat insisting it is the same thing. No loop holes allowed for fake documents.

Who is it who determines whether constitutional provisions have been appropriately implemented, in your opinion?

It looks like no one does, because everyone involved is so incompetent and/or partisan/corrupt.

124 posted on 06/28/2011 11:38:18 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: little jeremiah
Blake changed her story after coaching and one 0bama supporting witness with a memory she claims to have is not enough to prove anything.

That's a pretty broad based and vague rebuttal. She changed her story about the date? She changed her story about the Visit? She changed her story about the Diaper?

I've personally watched the video and read the interview, so I would be very interested to know what she could have changed her story to that would revoke what she had already said. What is it that she changed her story about?

In any case, I believe there is more than one person that claims to have seen Stanley in Seattle Subsequent to August 1961.

125 posted on 06/28/2011 11:42:37 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: john mirse

I was wrong, I confused IRS requirements of 7 years with medical records requirements which are only 5 years.
To the best of my knowledge, no one has asked Kapi’olani officials to verify whether they have medical records for Stanley Ann Dunham’s admission to give birth. No court, no attorney and no committee of Congress has officially inquired of the hospital about that information.

If issued a subpoena to testify under oath in a court of law or before Congress, it is likely that Kapi’olani officials would testify.


126 posted on 06/28/2011 12:12:11 PM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

If you read the long research threads, you’ll find all the info. I’m a reader, not a researcher. I know that she either changed her story, and/or part of it was pulled.

She’s an 0bama supporter and they will lie and are not trustworthy. No on else has said they saw Stanley in WA other than Mary Toutonghi the baby sitter, but she originally said she baby sat “Anna’s” child, not Stanley’s, and the timing was way off, didn’t fit.

The problem is people are swallowing the myths in Dreams and not realizing that much more of it is false than they realize. Trying to stuff round pegs in square holes when the simplest explanation is the real one.

You may believe this or that, but no one other than Blake and then later Mary (changed her story too, after being contacted) claims to have seen Stanley in WA. And no records other than the Polk listing that says “Anna Obama” and Stanley never went by the name Anna, ever ever ever.

Do your own reading and you’ll see. If people read the long research threads especially the “Auntie” thread with an open mind - be willing to learn - be willing to admit “Hey, I’ve been wrong” - you’ll see. If not, you won’t.


127 posted on 06/28/2011 12:49:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: muawiyah

“Herbster, I bet your office also has a laser printer and you have a cellphone with a camera.
It is a trivial matter to hit a piece of paper with a rubber stamp. Then photograph it with your cellphone. Transmit that image to a website. Download the image to WORD or some other sort of software that can handle images. Then print it.

They will look identical.

They’re not, of course, but that’s one way to do it.

So, yes, your office has the functional equivalent of a bracket to guide a rubber stamp.”


So, can I take that to be an admission that you do not believe Alvin stamped anything, and some flunky at the treasonous HDOH just scanned the signatures into the bogus new certificate that Obama demanded Hawaii to create from his office at the whitehouse and as of the pResident CiC?

All the pResident has to do is put his ‘presidential’ signature on a letter to a state where he asked Hawaii to break their rules and he can get anything?


128 posted on 06/28/2011 3:18:48 PM PDT by Herbster
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To: DiogenesLamp

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2731448/posts ~ look at the material in the thread. There are several exhibits. This is the one with the complaint about “t”. Guess there are folks who imagine old cloth ribbons were perfectly inked from top to bottom ~


129 posted on 06/28/2011 6:47:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2731448/posts ~ look at the material in the thread. There are several exhibits. This is the one with the complaint about “t”. Guess there are folks who imagine old cloth ribbons were perfectly inked from top to bottom ~

Thanks for the link. How can the inking of a ribbon explain the difference between the first "t" in the word "student" compared to the second "t" in that same word? (and the other letters as well?)

130 posted on 06/29/2011 8:50:07 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
As the platen moves the ribbon is rolled up on the spindle. That means each time the key strikes it hits a different part of the ribbon.

If the ribbon has been rewound a number of times, or amateur re-inking has been employed, it will almost certainly never print the same letter exactly the same way ~ not even in the same word.

Someone else can verify the movements on any particular manual typewriter BTW,

131 posted on 06/29/2011 9:48:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
As the platen moves the ribbon is rolled up on the spindle. That means each time the key strikes it hits a different part of the ribbon.

If the ribbon has been rewound a number of times, or amateur re-inking has been employed, it will almost certainly never print the same letter exactly the same way ~ not even in the same word.

Someone else can verify the movements on any particular manual typewriter BTW,

At what point do we conclude that the change is too extreme to be explained by your theory? (not to mention the kerning.)


132 posted on 06/29/2011 11:28:29 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: steadcom
There are two versions of the document that were sent from Hawaii. One was printed on green hash paper and manipulated in the WH with layering and processing on layers. That's probably the one with "identical" B's. The other image is from the AP, and is probably a certified copy on plain paper (although there's no way to be sure). That version looks like this:

The top OBAMA is cut/pasted from 1c into the empty space above the OBAMA in box 8. Then I zoomed and screen snapped with no other processing. Clearly the B's are different (a little too different IMO).

133 posted on 06/29/2011 12:41:53 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Elendur
Different resolutions in the WH version because someone mucked with it. In the AP image, they are all the same res. The words that supposedly don't curve actually do curve:

The M is on a curve (it is tilted counterclockwise). The M is a little higher than it ought to be in a curve, but remember that it was typed and the carriage shift for Caps can be uneven. The 'a' is one pixel lower than the 'e' so "Male" is indeed curved. One could argue that it is not curved enough compared to the form line below it (the form line drops several pixels while "Male" only drops one pixel).

134 posted on 06/29/2011 12:51:33 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Bad ink ~ not kerning. That's a cloth ribbon, not a carbon ribbon.

So, now bad could it get? Well, unreadable. You could get a dirty set of keys, a ribbon reinked by amateurs (rather than just getting a new ribbon they'd ink it), and cheap paper ~ I am sure you could get all sorts of garbage.

Ask your grandmother. She might know.

135 posted on 06/29/2011 4:15:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Forgive me for being slow.

You stated that:
“Such brackets are for sale world wide.”

After I stated:
“...some contraption that is rigged to give all three hand stamps in the same position. :0)”


I finally understand. It only took a month.

Alvin never stamped anything.


136 posted on 07/19/2011 4:14:00 PM PDT by Herbster
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To: Herbster
Now you are catching on.
137 posted on 07/19/2011 6:02:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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