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Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obama’s Birth In Hawaii
naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ^ | 06/09/2011 | Leo Donofrio

Posted on 06/09/2011 1:51:48 PM PDT by rxsid

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To: rxsid
what are the chances that SADO went to Kenya on her own during that time? Why would she be there without Sr.?

I don't have my bookmarks on this computer but wasn't it her friend Box who said she'd recieved a letter from Stanley Ann coming back by ship? There's many other countries besides Kenya like, oh, I dunno, maybe that place a hop, skip and a jump from Seattle - Canada.

61 posted on 06/09/2011 9:19:11 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: MHGinTN

Yes. Did you hear the Tom FIfe interview?


62 posted on 06/09/2011 9:20:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: so_real; rxsid

>>> It’s the simplest of questions : Can the son of a British subject rule the United States of America?

If born in the US, yes. As shown by one being president since 2009, and one will remain so at least until January 2013. You want him out, defeat him in the 2012 election. Cause this ploy sure fell flat. Or is that too mundane a process?

Three years of failed conspiracy theories play in his hand by discrediting the overall opposition. No different then the Truthers, the remaining post-Trump Birthers are nuts.


63 posted on 06/09/2011 9:21:36 PM PDT by tlb
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To: Red Steel
No Donofrio...the so called “immigration investigation” if that’s what you think it was likely was based on the word of a liar who was trying to extend his stay in the United States. It would have been beneficial to his cause if Obama Sr, said Jr was born in the US, by going along with the Dunham family story, than state he was born in Kenya. The immigration official does not state how he derived that Obama was born in the US, but the dubious info very likely came from Obama Sr, during the interview. Your conclusion has a big hole in it.

According to the article, the inquiry took place in 1967. They wouldn't have called Barack Obama Sr. in 1967. I think that by 1967, Barack had some sort of birth document claiming he was born in Hawaii. That doesn't mean that it was the original or even true, but probably it was good enough to fool immigration officials.

64 posted on 06/09/2011 9:23:32 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Did Stan Ann ever know any men who didnt have visa problems ???

Davis and whomever took those nudie pics. Ok, could have been one and the same.

65 posted on 06/09/2011 9:23:43 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: David; justiceseeker93; LucyT; Red Steel

If the Founders’ original intent of the meaning of NBC is no longer valid because the political winds have shifted, then why be a stickler about born on the soil, either?

In fact, every single jot and tittle of the Constitution is now up for grabs, by that argument.

Which is exactly what leftists say.

We either have a Constitution which is the foundation of the rule of law, or we don’t. If we sort of do and sort of don’t, that means It’s Over.


66 posted on 06/09/2011 9:25:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: rxsid; so_real; Red Steel
They won't touch that issue because they know it would be a losing proposition for them. Otherwise, they'd be all over that as well if they thought they could gain from it.

You most likely should include Congress, the court systems as well as FAUX and the likes of talking heads!

Leo is focused on his own ego after he and Pidgeon being slammed by the court!!

He forget to mentioning that Grama Sahrah claims being there when he was born, which Abercommie was NOT. And then all the fake SS#s which been swept under the rug and we all been screwd!!!

67 posted on 06/09/2011 9:27:17 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Gena Bukin
So where is this definition in the Constitution?

I tried looking up the meaning of "is" but couldn't find it. Oh, yeah, the US Constitution isn't a dictionary.

68 posted on 06/09/2011 9:34:46 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Gena Bukin
As far as I can tell, Obama didn't become ineligible to be President on this forum until after he was elected President.

I don't have the exact date when Obama's constitutional eligibility was first questioned here on FR, but it had to be sometime in the early summer of 2008, well before the conventions and the presidential election of that year.

In his book, Where's the Birth Certificate?, Jerome Corsi has an appendix where he gives a time sequence of World Net Daily stories on Obama's eligibility. The first such WND story was posted on June 10, 2008. Generally speaking, a WND story would be followed by a post of that story on FR within a day or two. So it would be reasonable to assume that the constitutional eligibility issue was was first discussed here sometime in June 2008.

I recall specifically that there was extensive talk about the Philip Berg lawsuit here starting in August 2008.

69 posted on 06/09/2011 9:36:08 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: bgill

Unless Stanley Ann had major reconstructive facial bone surgery, those pictures are not of Stanley Ann Dunham. And as little respect as barry the bastard boy had for his Mother, I wouldn’t doubt he orhcestrated/authorized the ‘exposure’ of those salacious faked pictures. The democrat party is a criminal enterprise, and nothing is beyond their doing for their empowerment. A political party that will support, defend, and promote the slaughtering of alive children partially ripped from their mothers’s body has absolutely no limits to the evil they will do to further their agenda. The current bastard in the White House spent quite a lot of energy defending the killing of completely born children who survived abortion attempt. Such a bankrupt soul has no limit to the evil they will utilize for their agenda.


70 posted on 06/09/2011 9:41:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: justiceseeker93

A little obamanoid taqqiya perhaps?


71 posted on 06/09/2011 9:42:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Could the missing divorce page be an adoption decree?


72 posted on 06/09/2011 9:44:56 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: MHGinTN
Whether or not she supplied a birth certificate of some kind when she filed for divorce and asked for custody, (to which request the named 'father' did not object, apparently,) SURELY the Court would have required SOME identification for the child they gave her custody of?

The Kenyan did receive, sign and return the divorce documents:

And as you can see below, EXHIBIT A was numbered 7:

But there was the second item, also identified as EXHIBIT A. Also shown as number 7.

And it seems that the two numbered items above relate to PAGE 7 of the divorce documents:

So may we take it that the missing page 11 was also a request for identification of the child for which custody was requested? And what is missing, is not only the PAGE, but the EXHIBIT...? And what might that EXHIBIT have been, BUT a birth certificate...removed from the documentation released?

Why was that 'Bomford' fake so quickly tampered with and 'punked' - was it because THAT WAS the document presented to the Court, between January and March, 1964? A fake it certainly was, but how was the Court to know?

Please note, the number I quote is the PENCILLED number.

73 posted on 06/09/2011 9:48:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: bgill

I have no idea. I am not familiar with what a court would require in order to grant sole custody of a child to a woman seeking a divorce for which there doesn’t appear to be documentation of a marriage! I would think some documentation of birth to that woman would be required, but who knows with HAwaii. They issued there certification for people not even born in Hawaii and never even American citizens! But of course it is incredible to believe there are actually any nefarious doings with regard to the one.


74 posted on 06/09/2011 9:48:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Gena Bukin
If this was such a well-known fact, where are all the posts pointing this out during the primary? Again, as far as I can tell, Obama didn't become ineligible to be President on this forum until after he was elected President and this Vattel definition was together in a desperate and so far fruitless attempt to nullify an election.

Yup, a conspiracy going back to 1758!

Nobody bothered discussing it because Obama was a long shot in early 2008. Hillary was a shoe in. Hillary didn't bring it up because she knew it would upset the Democrat's black constituency who would regard it as a dirty trick. Besides, she had this in the Bag. Then the Media Shift from being passive to all out support for Obama. Hillary ends up losing, but not before her team quietly points out "Hey, this guy ain't qualified because he has a foreign father."

Most Americans have been educated by the Public School system, so are completely ignorant about subjects such as Civics and U.S. History. The VAST MAJORITY of the public has been taught 14th Amendment "Jus Soli" citizenship all their lives, so as far as they are concerned, if you are born here, you are a citizen.

Nobody every explained to them that a "Citizen" is not the same thing as a "Natural Born Citizen." Most people think they mean the same thing.

Anyways, a lot of people thought McCain would point out that Barry wasn't eligible, But most people (including me.) didn't know that John McCain wasn't born in the United States, so by the standards of Most American's understanding, HE wasn't a natural born citizen. Those of us who expected McCain to bring it up were somewhat surprised when he didn't. At the time we didn't know why, but now we do.

We managed to pick the ONLY candidate who could not raise the issue with his opponent. For Awhile, it looked like McCain was going to beat Obama like a drum, but McCain blundered with his "Campaign Suspension" and the Media pounced on him.

Don't you remember any of this?

Anyways, since the election, I have spent time educating myself as to the origins, meaning and purpose of Article II, and I have discovered that the 14th Amendment did not repeal Article II. (Among other things.) Indeed, if the 14th Amendment is followed in accordance with what it's Author and sponsors said about it, It re-iterates the requirement of Parents who hold obedience to American Laws before citizenship can be granted. ("And Subject to the Jurisdiction thereof")

A lot of stuff Americans believe regarding this issue is simply wrong. The only way to find out what is the truth is to research it.

75 posted on 06/09/2011 9:48:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: Gena Bukin; SatinDoll
Nope. These "witness" stories have been convincingly debunked.

By WHOM???

Fact is, nobody has offered any credible evidence that Obama was born in Kenya. Only a few redacted newspaper articles, bogus "birth certificates" cobbled together by known scam artists and the deliberately mistranslated statements from supposed witnesses.

You are misleading again newcomer!

Numerous African newspapers claimed it when he ran for the Senate seat out of Illinois!!

Even the Kenyan Parliament has alluded him as being a Kenyan!!!

76 posted on 06/09/2011 9:51:01 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Fred Nerks
Perhaps there are two pages for "Exhibit A" because a certified delivery has a front and back page which must both be placed in evidence?

I cannot believe a court would grant custody to a female seeking a divorce for a marriage that is undocumented to the court records, and grant that custody without any evidence of birth to that parent. In my mother's divorce from my father in the fifties, me and my two brothers had our birth certificates as part of the divorce 'package' when she was granted custody of us. We were all under 14. I did not know this until recently since we have been dealing with her estate following her death the day before Valentine's day this year. In my divorce from my first wife, our son was graduated from college, so no custody was involved and no BC for him is in the divorce papers. In fact, he is not even mentioned in the divorce documents other than to note 'no minor children'.

77 posted on 06/09/2011 9:58:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: justiceseeker93; Gena Bukin
The first such WND story was posted on June 10, 2008. Generally speaking, a WND story would be followed by a post of that story on FR within a day or two. So it would be reasonable to assume that the constitutional eligibility issue was was first discussed here sometime in June 2008.


"Is Obama's candidacy even constitutional?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 10 June 2008

Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:15:05 AM by Hal1950"


And as I recall, there is an Obama eligibility article story or two before this one too.

78 posted on 06/09/2011 10:08:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: little jeremiah; David; justiceseeker93; LucyT; Red Steel

How about “Harrison J. Bounell”???


79 posted on 06/09/2011 10:11:10 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

Here is another one to back you up!
Seems it wasn’t just the US who could not quite figure out who this boy was, Kenya sure had some questions too, and behold! The birth records in Kenya for the year in question was “criminally tampered” just a nudder one of dem pesky coincidences!
I could have never quessed that one family could have such difficulties with legal records gone missing, all over the world!
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=303053


80 posted on 06/09/2011 10:14:36 PM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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