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Hawaii Official and Ex-Official Lie to Cover Their Tracks
The Post & Email ^ | April 10, 2011 | Miki Booth

Posted on 04/10/2011 10:16:15 PM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: opentalk

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/34968


81 posted on 04/13/2011 8:20:12 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: wintertime

Terry Lakin spoke up. He’s now in prison.

He spoke up, and no superior officer supported him.

It’s not just benefits they are afraid of losing.


82 posted on 04/13/2011 8:22:17 AM PDT by Helen
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
They're just riding the storm out, like the rest of us.

You owe me a keyboard for that one......

83 posted on 04/13/2011 8:24:05 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: RobinMasters
her tale of viewing the elusive document

Why can't the rest of us see it? Why such a secret?!

84 posted on 04/13/2011 8:26:16 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: GlockThe Vote

WHY CAN’T THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SEE THE DAMN BIRTH CERTIFICATE?! There is obviously a reason he doesn’t want anyone to actually see it or he would put this thing to bed!

I found this...

Thu, 12/11/2008

Dr. Chiyome Fukino responds to my Obama birth certificate questions, “takes the Fifth”

On October 31, 2008, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii Department of Health, released a statement verifying that Barack Obama’s birth certificate was on file in their records. However, despite what you might have heard, she did not verify that he was born in Hawaii. And, she did not verify that the certificate on file in Hawaii matches the “COLB” pictured on Obama’s site and at FactCheck.

That hasn’t stopped many people from assuming that she verified something she did not. See the obama citizenship summary for all the details.

I recently sent some questions to Dr. Fukino’s office, and in her reply she basically “takes the Fifth”. The questions and their reply are below. More on this tomorrow...

Here are the questions I sent them:

1. Did that statement (or any other official statement from the state government) confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii , as some have assumed?

2. Did that statement (or any other official statement from the state government) confirm that the certificate you have on file matches the one on Obama’s website?

3. Is it illegal under Hawaii state law to confirm where Obama was born, or to confirm that the certificate you have on file matches the one on Obama’s website?

And, here’s the non-reply reply:

Dr. Fukino has said that her statement stands on its own, and she does not feel there is any need for further comment.

Hawaii State law protects the birth records of all individuals born in our state under all circumstances. State law prohibits the Department of Health from disclosing any information about a Hawaii vital record unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record. This includes verification of vital records and all the information contained in a record. Direct and tangible interest is determined by HRS §338-18(b). http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm

For information on the law that governs vital records in the State of Hawaii , please refer to HRS §338 at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/

Information on obtaining certified copies of vital records is available on the Hawaii DOH website at www.hawaii.gov/health

Janice Okubo
Communications Office
Hawaii State Department of Health

http://24ahead.com/dr-chiyome-fukino-responds-my-obama-birth-certificate-questi


85 posted on 04/13/2011 8:32:36 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
From your link

In addition to being black and awesome, Obama won through effective voter mobilization, having powerful sponsors, having the full force of the press behind him and cleverly masking his true intentions.

It was less about “change we can believe in” than “rhetoric we can deceive with”.

86 posted on 04/13/2011 8:34:42 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: GlockThe Vote

“It’s kind of ludicrous at this point,” Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC. Fukino, sounding both exasperated and amused, spoke to a reporter in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s statements on the NBC Today show last week questioning whether Obama has a legitimate birth certificate.

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No, it is not ludicrous at this point or any other point why the damn thing can't be viewed by the American people! Who else in the country HIDES their birth certificate much less the freaking President of the United States?!

Call us cynical since we don't believe a damn thing Obama says (with good reason) since he lies every time he opens his mouth.

Shows us the document we are asking to see and it will all go away! How simple is that?!

I didn't really think too much about this until recently since Obama is going out of his way to avoid the question by sending people out to defend him. Something stinks in Hawaii and the White House.

87 posted on 04/13/2011 8:39:58 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: opentalk

The political action committee ‘Obama for America’ paid $1,066,691.90 to the Perkins Coie law firm between Oct. 16, 2008 and March 30, 2009, to fight every request to release Obama’s original birth records. [10] Partial listing of cases courtesy of WND.com [1]

New Jersey attorney Mario Apuzzo has filed a case on behalf of Charles Kerchner and others alleging Congress did not properly ascertain that Obama is qualified to hold the office of President.

Pennsylvania Democrat Philip Berg has three cases pending, including Berg vs. Obama in the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, a separate Berg vs. Obama which is under seal at the U.S. District Court level and Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama, brought on behalf of a retired military member who could be facing recall to active duty by Obama. [11]

Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming that Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.

Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut’s Secretary of State, making a similar argument to Donofrio’s. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.

Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public’s support.

Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama’s vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.

Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama’s eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama’s citizenship. His case was denied.

In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied. [12]

Also in Ohio, there was the Greenberg v. Brunner case which ended when the judge threatened to assess all case costs against the plaintiff. [13]

In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama’s citizenship. The case was denied.

In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama’s birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia’s secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.

California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters. [14]

In addition, other cases cited on the RightSideofLife blog as raising questions about Obama’s eligibility:

In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.

In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed. [15]

In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.

In Washington, L. Charles Cohen vs. Obama.

In Hawaii, Keyes vs. Lingle, dismissed. [16]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Obama_birth_certificate_lawsuits#Case


88 posted on 04/13/2011 8:48:39 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Tuesday, July 28, 2009

Dr. Chiyome Fukino Issues Another “Transparency Dodger” Statement on President Obama’s Birth Certificate

The issue of what Dr. Fukino actually viewed to make the determination that the President was in fact Hawaii born is quite relevant, since the State of Hawaii switched all of its birth records from hard copy to digital in 2001.

Almost all news commentators, including Chris Mathews of MSNBC recently, have assumed that Dr. Fukino’s October 31, 2008 statement meant she had physically viewed the original hard copy of the President’s 1961 birth certificate. Yesterday’s statement seems to indicate it is more likely that Dr. Fukino viewed an electronic record and not a physical hard copy, but it is still not definitive.

though primary evidence of his birth in Hawaii is thought to exist in hard copy form in Kapiolani Hospital (which he claims as his birthplace) this data has not been released.

The State of Hawaii Department of Health Statements, rather than shedding light on the source of primary evidence in their possession, have fueled suspicions that information is being withheld. And, in fact, some relevant information has been withheld.

http://tinyurl.com/3t4h9z2


89 posted on 04/13/2011 8:52:08 AM PDT by kcvl
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90 posted on 04/13/2011 8:52:36 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: kcvl

The heat needs to be turned up on this Fukino character. She’ll eventually crack. I can see it in her eyes. Trump should call her out on national TV as being complicit in covering for Obama.

Making Fukino a national figure, and an object of ridicule, ups the ante on the BC ruse.


91 posted on 04/13/2011 8:53:08 AM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: kcvl

The heat needs to be turned up on this Fukino character. She’ll eventually crack. I can see it in her eyes. Trump should call her out on national TV as being complicit in covering for Obama.

Making Fukino a national figure, and an object of ridicule, ups the ante on the BC ruse.


92 posted on 04/13/2011 8:53:11 AM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: opentalk

Sorry forgot this link. Obama’s WH counsel.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bauer


93 posted on 04/13/2011 8:57:11 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Helen
It’s not just benefits they are afraid of losing.
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So?....just exactly what are these highest military officers afraid of losing? Are you suggesting something sinister here?

If they have been threatened with harm to themselves or to their families, then it is their DUTY BEFORE GOD and their oath to defend the Constitution, to expose these thuggish threats and the corruption in the chain of command!

WHEN did hiding corruption, dishonesty, and threats become part of the military code of honor??? Geeze! To think that a fair number of these highest officers are graduates of our military academies. Well...The thought turns my mind to jelly!

If they even suspect corruption, or have been threatened, it their lawful right to seek clarification from Congress, Obama, and the Supreme Court. Isn't it their lawful right to hold a press conference outlining their concerns coupled with handing in their resignations?

Personally,....I have written these guys off! There is no possible way I would depend upon these highest military officers to honor their oaths to defend the Constitution against domestic enemies.

94 posted on 04/13/2011 9:28:18 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Why are people blaming military? Obama is their CIC.It is not their duty to certify/verify POTUS.


95 posted on 04/13/2011 12:24:58 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

It is not their duty to certify/verify
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When did it become part of the military code of honor to overlook and ignore suspected corruption, deceit, and fraud? Hm?


96 posted on 04/13/2011 12:29:17 PM PDT by wintertime
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