Posted on 03/22/2011 1:23:41 PM PDT by STARWISE
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I thought I would take a look at Honolulu, Hawaii zip codes, because Obama supposedly was around 16 and living in Honolulu in 1977 when he supposedly received his Social Security number.
Some people on the internet say that the number is 042-68-4245.
I also took a look at Connecticut zip codes.
96801-96850: The Honolulu zip codes seem to run from 96801 to 96850.
06167: The zip code list for Connecticut is obviously too long for me to post here, but an example of a Connecticut zip code is 06167.
As I understand your theory, it goes something like this:
Clerks all over the world "occasionally" mistype digits when they fill out forms where they work, so it is possible that a clerk at the Social Security main processing office in Baltimore, Maryland mistyped Obama's Hawaii zip code in 1977 when the clerk was working on Obama's Social Security application, because if the clerk used a computer keyboard, the digits 0 and 9 are next to each other, and so the clerk could have accidentally typed 0 for Connecticut when the clerk meant to type 9 for Hawaii.
So let's say for the sake of discussion that Obama's Honolulu, Hawaii zip code was 96801.
Your theory says that instead of typing the 9 for Hawaii, the clerk accidentally typed 0, making the new zip code 06801, and thus turning a Hawaii zip code into a Connecticut zip code number.
Some of my thoughts about your theory are the following:
1. 1960 to 1977: It seems to me that it would be reasonable to expect that if a clerk made such a typo in 1977, then the same clerk, or other clerks, made the same mistake several times between 1960 and 1977, when Obama supposedly received his Social Security card.
2. That is, I would think that there would be other past and present Hawaii residents who are walking around with Social Security numbers beginning with 042, for Connecticut, just as Obama is walking around with one, because it is difficult for me to believe that the ONLY time in Social Security history---especially between , say, 1960 and 1977---that a clerk in the Social Security office in Baltimore, Maryland mistyped an 0 instead of a 9 occurred in the Obama case. To me, such a scenario defies reasonable thinking.
3. And what about the reverse? That is, if a clerk could accidentally type 0 instead of 9, it seems reasonable to me that the same clerk, or other clerks, could accidentally type 9 for Connecticut when the clerk meant to type 0 for Hawaii zip code in the same period between,say, 1960 and 1977. Obama supposedly received his Social Security card in 1977.
4. So if a clerk sometimes mistyped a 0 instead of a 9 when the clerk was working on a zip code on an application from a person in Connecticut, then I would expect that there would be several persons in Connecticut who are walking around with Social Security numbers that say that they registered in Hawaii, when they have never been in Hawaii, if your a-clerk-mistyped-a-wrong-digit theory is to be believed.
5. So as I see it, unless some past or present residents of Hawaii come forward and show us their Social Security numbers with the Connecticut number of 042, I say that your theory about the mistyped digit of 0 for 9, is not valid in Obama's case.
6. At the same time, if past and present residents of Connecticut don't come forward and display their Social Security numbers with the beginning mistyped digit of 9 for Hawaii even though they did not live in Hawaii when they received their Social Security cards, then, again, I don't believe your theory is plausible.
7. So if your theory is not plausible, then we are back to square one: How did Obama end up with a Social Security Connecticut number, when it looks like he never lived in Connecticut, especially way back in 1977, when the Connecticut 042 Social Security card was supposedly issued to Obama?
Maybe Trump can find out between now and election day Nov. 2012 why Obama has a Connecticut Social Security number and not a Hawaii Social Security number.
If someone in liberal Hawaii had a SS number issued to a mailing address other than Hawaii, I would guess we would have heard about it by now....it would have gone viral in minutes...but all we hear is excuses and silence....
You assume a lot. You know what people use to say? Assume. When you assume, you make an ass of u and me. I’m done arguing with idiots.
What have I assumed that you find unreasonable?
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If there is no way to check out your a-clerk-mistyped-Obama's-zip-code theory because you don't have access to Social Security records, then, again, I say your theory is not plausible.
And, really, your theory insults people's intelligence, because it hangs by a very thin thread that theorizes that a clerk mistyped a 0 for Connecticut instead of a 9 for Hawaii when the clerk typed in Obama's zip code in 1977.
You also have no proof that such an error occurred because you admit that you don't have access to Social Security records and procedures, and so you don't know if Social Security has a backup system to double and triple check their records to make sure that an Obama-type mistake does not occur.
So, again, if your weak theory is not plausible, then it seems that we are back to square one. Maybe Trump can find out why Obama has a Connecticut Social Security number issued in 1977 when he supposedly lived in Hawaii, and he was around 16 years old.
Was the 80 year stamp on Obama’s supposed Selective Service Registration also a typo when it should have been stamped 1980? Man this Obama has bad karma, typos, lost long form, wrong numbering etc etc..he must be really unlucky according to your “logic”
“I pray that happens before he destructs the Country.”
Sad to say, that ship has sailed; this country is beyond hope now, thanks to him.
“There are no addresses listed in New York where he attended Columbia University...”
Do we even know if he truly did attend Columbia? IIRC, nobody seems to recall knowing him there. I’m not sure — haven’t been immersed in this issue, but it seems I heard that his (alleged?) Columbia attendance cannot be verified.
“HE HAD A DEAD MAN’S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.”
Yup. In every true crime story I’ve heard or read, the first thing a criminal does when he wants to change his identity is find records for a dead guy, and base the new identity on that data. Makes perfect sense Obama would do the same if wanting to hide his true history.
(Those dead folk do come in handy for democrats in so many ways, yeah?)
What's wrong with a 2-digit year? It's not like anyone was worried about Y2K in 1980.
How so? Just because you can't prove a theory beyond all doubt doesn't mean it is implausible.
And, really, your theory insults people's intelligence, because it hangs by a very thin thread that theorizes that a clerk mistyped a 0 for Connecticut instead of a 9 for Hawaii when the clerk typed in Obama's zip code in 1977.
Are you seriously disputing the fact that clerks occaisonally make data entry errors?
Yes we do:
"Federal law limits the information that Columbia can release about Mr. Obama's time there. A spokesman for the university, Brian Connolly, confirmed that Mr. Obama spent two years at Columbia College and graduated in 1983 with a major in political science. He did not receive honors, Mr. Connolly said, though specific information on his grades is sealed. A program from the 1983 graduation ceremony lists him as a graduate."
Taken from here:
http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/
IIRC, nobody seems to recall knowing him there.
There are several. Here's an article in the Columbia alumni magazine by his former roommate:
http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/jan_feb09/alumni_corner
There's no evidence Obama ever used a dead person's SSN. That's another birther myth, just like the travel ban to Pakistan, Maya's Hawaii COLB, etc. Amazing how easily these myths get accepted as gospel truth.
He started at Columbia in Sept. 1981, not 1982. Here's an article by his roommate from the 1981-1982 academic year:
http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/jan_feb09/alumni_corner
He spent the summer between June and Sept. of 1981 in travelling Asia. First to Indonesia, and then to Pakistan.
Is there something about his travels that summer that you find troubling?
What’s wrong with a 2-digit year? It’s not like anyone was worried about Y2K in 1980.
If you had read what I previously posted to you you would know. Seriously you have no credibility for researching anything.
previous response to you:
My hunch is that Mr. Hollister is lying. I’ll look into it further.
Yeah right, where has Mr. Hollister lied?
How about you, is this true?
...Just type the 042 social security number that is attributed to him into the selective service website, and his name pops up. So yes, indeed, we do know that is his genuine SSN....
That doesn’t mean its his genuine SS number it could be either that he used that number when he registered and it could still be a bad number or his draft registration is fake. Sheesh....Amazing how no other draft registrations from Hawaii had only the last two digits of the year and not all ie 1980 ..his draft registration is suspect for a number of reasons.
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....Last week Sonoran News received a response to a FOIA request for 17 SS records for the purpose of making comparisons.
Every single one of them has a four-digit year stamp, including two registrations processed at the very same post office, one within days of Obama’s.
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http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2010/100303/webonlyObama.html
135 posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9:46:14 AM by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
so who is brian connoly? a died in the wool democrat mouthpiece...
He wouldn't be in the selective service registration database if his registration was fake.
Amazing how no other draft registrations from Hawaii had only the last two digits of the year and not all ie 1980
You haven't seen every single draft registration from Hawaii. You've only seen a small sample. Just because those registrations you have seen happen to have a four digit year does not mean all registrations have a four digit year.
Again, this is 1980 we are talking about. No one was worried about Y2K at the time.
..his draft registration is suspect for a number of reasons.
If the 2 digit year is the best you've got, then you've got squat.
Whatever his politics, he's an official spokesman for the Columbia University. Furthermore, even if you don't believe him, his statement that Obama attended from Sept. 1981 - June 1982 is corroborated by a bunch of other evidence: Obama's name is on the graduation program for June 1982, several roommates have come forward who remember him, and he wrote an article in the student newspaper.
What reason do you have to doubt that he attended Columbia on the specified dates?
What reason do you have to doubt that he attended Columbia on the specified dates?
National Student Clearing House:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=20018
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