Posted on 08/15/2010 7:47:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
It’s not about being “pure,” or being envious of others you think are perceived as pure in some way. Purity is not the issue. Our reflections in the pool will never be pure because we are not pure. Forget about purity.
It’s about trying our best to do the right thing. Lakin is one of the few who will.
Lakin has brought attention to the eligibility issue, just as he planned.
Thank you—now it’s not a waste.
If Lakin felt that Obama is not eligible to be president and therefore he couldn't in good conscious serve under him then the right thing to do would have been to resign. Not to refuse to obey the lawful orders of his superior officers.
Lakin has brought attention to the eligibility issue, just as he planned.
LOL. Yeah Lakin's all over the nightly news, isn't he?
So you admit Lakin has the right to act on his belief that Obama has failed to demonstrate his eligibility. With this admission you sabotage your own argument.
You must realize that the more just action, as long as Lakin believes this about Obama, would be to do whatever he could to bring the eligibility problem into public awareness.
Now we see how your comments are incoherent.
Lakin has the right to his beliefs. He does not have the right to his own set of Army rules and regulations. If he chooses to deliberately disobey the lawful orders of three of his superior officers then he deserves what he gets. The truly honorable course, if he really believed that he could not serve with Obama as commander-in-chief, would have been to resign.
You must realize that the more just action, as long as Lakin believes this about Obama, would be to do whatever he could to bring the eligibility problem into public awareness.
How's that working for him?
But you can’t say he has a right to his beliefs, and a right to act on his beliefs, while at the same time saying he doesn’t have a right to act on those beliefs which you don’t agree with.
Lakin believes Obama has failed to demonstrate eligibility for the office of the presidency even though there is significant evidence indicating he is ineligible.
His beliefs include the notion that an ineligible office-holder should be exposed.
And in answer to your last comment—Obama’s eligibility problem has only grown in the arena of public awareness, and Lt. Col. Lakin’s actions have contributed significantly to that increase.
Lakin, like many birthers, has basic problems with logic. Allegedly failing to demonstrate eligibility is not the same thing as not being eligible.
He can act on whatever beliefs he wants to. But if he's in the wrong, and in this case he is, then he deserves whatever the court martial deals out.
Lakin believes Obama has failed to demonstrate eligibility for the office of the presidency even though there is significant evidence indicating he is ineligible.
I got that part, yeah. But that is irrelevant to the charges he is facing.
And in answer to your last comment—Obama’s eligibility problem has only grown in the arena of public awareness, and Lt. Col. Lakin’s actions have contributed significantly to that increase.
Of course it has. But say, for the sake of argument, that Obama is exposed and removed from office tomorrow. Lakin will still be tried, still be convicted, still be cashiered and, possibly, jailed.
To think that something considered “alleged” can only be seen as “factual” at a time when a judge says so is a symptom of the confusion suffered by fools who think reality is determined by the court system.
Give me some more of your “logic” and again I will replace it with common sense.
You and I are not speaking in the courtroom. This is real life. Real life supersedes—though not necessarily in an immediate way—the court.
The events of those aspects of life which are larger than the court system have immediate sway in the happenings of politics. Prosecutors are always motivated by politics before anything, including the letter of the law. An Obama removal due to ineligibility would be a political Hiroshima.
If you can’t see that such an event would have a severe effect on the Lakin case, you should stop right there and give up all attempts at thinking.
Then I would apparently be living in the same land as you. What you cannot seem to understand or will not accept is that Lakin is not being charged with disobeying Obama's orders. He deliberately disobeyed the orders of three of his superior officers. That is what he is charged with, that is what he will be court martialed for, and that has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's eligibility or lack there of. Lakin's motivation for disobeying the orders is irrelevant - it is his actions that are the only thing that are important. And it's his actions that will wind up costing him his career and may land him in Leavenworth. Obama or no Obama.
Politics have no influence on legal cases?
O-Hole isn’t going anywhere. Fight The Fight, and DEFEAT his ASS!
They shouldn't. Are you saying that Lakin's charges are entirely political?
After the dust settled ... a much better place.
You need to understand the difference between what “should be” and what is.
Let’s clarify:
1) Politics have a significant—often overwhelming—influence on legal cases.
2) An Obama removal due to ineligibility would destroy the case against Lakin. Not even Alinsky could save it (snicker).
It shouldn't, since one has nothing to do with the other.
Whatever you are trying to say, it has nothing to do with what I wrote. Try reading it again.
I'm pointing out the difference between "not proven false" and "true". Just because an idea is not proven false doesn't mean the idea is true.
Some things are obvious.
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