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BP Official Admits to Damage BENEATH THE SEA FLOOR
washingtonsblog.com ^ | Saturday, June 12, 2010

Posted on 06/13/2010 6:39:37 PM PDT by GonzoII

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To: GOPJ

While this is no laughing matter, that video is one of the funniest things I have EVER seen!!!!!!!


121 posted on 06/13/2010 10:12:12 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: autumnraine

Safe to say the entire gulf coast would be gone and done...living in Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas..no longer an option and Mexico loses most of its land as well.

I can believe something like this happening. Our planet has had many many things happen in its history.


122 posted on 06/13/2010 10:12:33 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Obama is Dangerclown The Manchild)
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witness obama release the full force and fury of our National Guard. AP Photo - National Guard members talk with waitresses about the procedures for filing an oil spill claim against BP.
123 posted on 06/13/2010 10:14:05 PM PDT by anglian
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yaelle had that in the post.......# 13.

Don't ever listen to me! I know nothing and am filled with hyperbole! :)

124 posted on 06/13/2010 10:17:07 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: My Favorite Headache
Safe to say the entire gulf coast would be gone and done...living in Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas..no longer an option and Mexico loses most of its land as well.

What are we talking about by "gone?" Economies gone, or actual land gone?

125 posted on 06/13/2010 10:18:46 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: TornadoAlley3; Yaelle; Smokin' Joe
It's gonna be an earthquake when that well falls in.

How does a well fall in?

126 posted on 06/13/2010 10:27:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: antivenom

Do they know where the defective strata is and are the relief wells going to tap in below that area?


127 posted on 06/13/2010 10:31:44 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Yaelle

One scenario- tourism and fishing economies become unsustainable.

Another scenario- land becomes uninhabitable because it beomes toxic, either from the crude, or the dispersant, or both.

There was a report a while ago from a Russian mineral agency to Medvedev that it is their belief that this event will destroy the south east US. They stated that the core exit 9500 could become a gas as the water heats over the summer, and that it would be sucked up into rain clouds and rained out over land, killing everything.

I don’t know if this is true or even possible, but someone seems to think that pouring millions of gallons of mutagenic, carcinogenic chemicals into the water is better than oil being visible on the surface...


128 posted on 06/13/2010 10:33:49 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Calamari; GonzoII

The speculative rhetoric is really getting wild....


129 posted on 06/13/2010 10:34:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ernest, please read this stark assessment/ possible scenario that was posted here on FR earlier today, that answer is contained herein:

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6593/648967


130 posted on 06/13/2010 10:35:30 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Yaelle

I was speaking on the discussed theory in the thread of the gomex turning into a sink hole.


131 posted on 06/13/2010 10:36:04 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Obama is Dangerclown The Manchild)
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To: All

It’s not a good idea to second guess the theoildrum.com. They have a clue and only lack information about the well and the surrounding geological formation to come to a definitive answer.

It’s no surprise the well casing it not intact the entire distance since we already know that 1. BP didn’t install a rubber seal in a transition from bigger to smaller well casing. 2. Their cement job failed to secure the well casing to the surrounding earth (called formation), that is, pumping cement into any void between the outside of the well casing to the surrounding earth to turn those voids into solid mass so nothing leaks around or past, that didn’t happen at certain elevation.

The geology of the area is like...sand, mud, sand, mud in layer after layer following the seasonal outflows of Mississippi silts. It’s not like they drilled through any solid rock formation.

Along with the oil and gas flowing up and out is abrasives like sand at high pressure at least 8,000psi at the BOP/wellhead, the reservoir of oil/gas is under pressure of near 13,000psi finding its way up starting at the bottom of the well casing about an 8 inch pipe in diameter. Gets larger in diameter as you go up to about 36” at the well head.

Knowing these tidbits, you can see where erosion can take place anywhere along the well casing where it is not intact. Erosion (sand traveling at high speed = sandblasting or in this case water jetting) can wear steel pipe into non-existence or the earth itself causing more voids as it flows freely to the least path of resistance or maybe worse, turbulent areas of flow causing carving.

So you can see why TOD foresees a complete failure in the future. Anchor lines to the BOP will be conformation and fumbles observing oil seeping anywhere from the mud around the casing and sea floor means the end is near and get the nuke ready.

No one dare speak of hurricane related complications for at the very least BP has to pull off and let oil gush freely into the GOM until seas settle down.


132 posted on 06/13/2010 10:39:33 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Yaelle

They all pretty much disgust me! Just a bunch of hot air after all the funding they can spread around to each other. It’s appauling!

I heard a scientist state that the carbon deal could be completely solved, and all other issues they are screaming about.... if there was a massive tree planting world wide to replace alot of the deforrestation that has occured. No Coppenhagen...No Carbon worries....but then again there would be no monies flying into the coffers of those pushing the “green” movement.


133 posted on 06/13/2010 10:42:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: GregoryFul
The failed casing is not a doomsday event. It does mean that they will need the relief wells to fill in the area inside and around the existing well AT DEPTH. The well is open (like with a screen) to the producing formation - probably a sandstone or similar ROCK. But a rock that has pore space and/or fractures in it which allows oil to flow.

The original cement seal to close off the well would have been placed in the hard, “good” strong rock above the oil producing rock. (The good, hard rock that has kept that oil from floating upwards and in place for the last 100 million years or whatever).

That seal is what blew because BP rush things (IMHO from what I have read). One (or both) of the “relief” wells will be used to pump heavy mud and then cement into and around the well in the good, hard rock. I wonder if the deeper relief well might “suck” to reduce the pressures, and a shallower well could “blow” the mud and cement in?

The relief wells can use directional drilling, and they even have magnetometers now to guide the new wells to within inches of the existing iron casing.

The nuke option used by the Russkies was before this accuracy was available. They drilled down into the hard rock above the reservoir and got at close as they could to the bad well. Then set the nuke off to shift the hard rock around to block the bad well. I suppose one could be hundreds or thousands of feet away and it would work. (Or the 4 out of 5 times the russkies SAY it worked!)

They will get this well stopped. The Gulf, in time will recover. Maybe in one fishing season, maybe in 20 seasons. (I think it will be lower that feared).

And, Obama will use this terrible accident to his full advantage. (See my tagline.)

134 posted on 06/13/2010 10:44:55 PM PDT by 21twelve ( UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES MY ARSE: "..now begin the work of remaking America."-Obama, 1/20/09)
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To: Razzz42
I have to believe that BP or someone has placed seismometers at various distances from the BOP, at least I hope so. The data from them would be interesting to monitor for any changes.
135 posted on 06/13/2010 10:49:03 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: caww

The concern about carbon is a devious scheme to extreme money from us....it is trully a Global Warming hoax....And they are changing the scheme now labeling CO2 As A POLLUNTANT....RATHER AMAZING SINCE PLANT LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...


136 posted on 06/13/2010 10:50:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Star Traveler

And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood.

Revelations 8:8


137 posted on 06/13/2010 10:53:51 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: All

I might add that this is why relief wells can not be production wells because they travel at angles where abrasives flows can wear right though pipe casing. Production wells have to be vertical.


138 posted on 06/13/2010 10:55:46 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: Yaelle

This whole thread has a lot of hyperbole...and scary scenarios...most of which I believe to be over the top.


139 posted on 06/13/2010 10:56:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: happygrl

Don’t get me wrong here, because I think that those things in Revelation are going to happen exactly as told to us... it’s just that I don’t think it’s now or we’re there yet ... :-)


140 posted on 06/13/2010 10:58:53 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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