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Abiotic Oil and Gas: A Theory That Refuses To Vanish
Seeking Alpha ^ | February 3, 2010 | Vinod Dar

Posted on 03/29/2010 10:16:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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If this is true that "peak oil" stuff is nonsense.
1 posted on 03/29/2010 10:16:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTTT


2 posted on 03/29/2010 10:20:53 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To buy into the theroy that we are running out of oil, you have to beleive that the process by which it is formed no longer happens.


3 posted on 03/29/2010 10:21:54 PM PDT by Wooly
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To: SAJ; saganite

Here we go again....


4 posted on 03/29/2010 10:22:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some of the other moons and planets seem to be made of frozen methane.

I don’t think we’ll find frozen dinosaurs and forests there. So that would make it sound like hydrocarbons are the basic building block of the universe.

Although, who knows. The sooner we put a lander on the surface maybe the sooner we find out. The universe may be weirder than we know.


5 posted on 03/29/2010 10:23:28 PM PDT by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The fossil fuel crowd can predict where to find oil which strongly bolsters their theories. The abiotic theories will always be little more than curious sidenotes until they can reliably predict where to find oil.


6 posted on 03/29/2010 10:24:39 PM PDT by fso301
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Read the article...


7 posted on 03/29/2010 10:26:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I am the Sumo Ninja! Fear me or feed me. Hey, come back here!)
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To: Wooly

>To buy into the theroy that we are running out of oil, you have to beleive that the process by which it is formed no longer happens.

True. Even if oil and NG are generated via biological organisms then it should be replicable... of course maybe it’s the “Western World” that is indoctrinated; consider how this could/would impact [the] evolutionists, who claim that oil IS dinosaurs.

Of course there’s nothing that says that oil and NG _can’t_ be produced biotically AND abiotically; in fact this could be expected if it were a process that operated on carbon-concentrates as Earth-borne life is Carbon-based.


8 posted on 03/29/2010 10:34:31 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: fso301

>The fossil fuel crowd can predict where to find oil which strongly bolsters their theories. The abiotic theories will always be little more than curious sidenotes until they can reliably predict where to find oil.

See my post #8.


9 posted on 03/29/2010 10:35:46 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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If it's true, then it's another example of evolutionist ideology resulting in bad science and poor decisions that harm people.

Not only has the U.S. economic growth been stunted by our insistence on not drilling our own oil, but we have funded Muslim terrorist states, incurred large deficits, and built strategic oil reserves all in vain.

10 posted on 03/29/2010 10:37:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Read the article...

I did. The abiotic crowd has a theory which has yet to be put to the test. My point still stands, they have to show that their theory can reliably predict where to drill.

11 posted on 03/29/2010 10:43:07 PM PDT by fso301
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Of course there’s nothing that says that oil and NG _can’t_ be produced biotically AND abiotically; in fact this could be expected if it were a process that operated on carbon-concentrates as Earth-borne life is Carbon-based.

I agree.

12 posted on 03/29/2010 10:44:06 PM PDT by fso301
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the ‘70s scientist discovered deep ocean thermal vents. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_vent
The oceans are pulled in toward the core boiled and enriched and then vented. Hmmm...aren’t the oceans the largest carbon sinks on the planet? Yes they are, so CO2 in the atmosphere gets absorbed by the oceans then the CO2 saturated sea water gets pulled toward the core and super heated under pressure. Suggesting that this is how oil is made. We can burn as much as we want and the planet recycles it and produces more. A natural cycle. The anti-SUV, global warming nuts will explode.


13 posted on 03/29/2010 10:45:57 PM PDT by voveo
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Perhaps both theories are correct? There’s more than one way to create chained hydrocarbons. Scientistst argued about light for decades before they finally agreed that it was both a particle and a wave.


14 posted on 03/29/2010 10:48:02 PM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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Well for starters.

1, I believe there are substantially more conventional reserves that have not been tapped at all. This is contrary to the peak oil folks.

It’s not an either/or question. You don’t have to choose between an abiogenic origin or peak oil. There are more fossil fuel theories than just ‘peak oil’, which has consistantly been proven wrong.


15 posted on 03/29/2010 10:59:52 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2482838%2C15

The claim is that there is enough oil for 2041 years.

I’m not worried about oil or fuel, but I am worried about this radical socialist administration.


16 posted on 03/29/2010 11:04:50 PM PDT by voveo
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To: Wooly

“To buy into the theroy that we are running out of oil, you have to beleive that the process by which it is formed no longer happens.”

Or what is more likely is that it happens at a rate much slower than our consumption rate. If so then the outcome is indistinguishable from it no longer happening.

All major field being in production decline is a good indicator that if they are being replenished they aren’t being replenished at any significant rate.


17 posted on 03/29/2010 11:18:15 PM PDT by AussieJoe
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To: Smokin' Joe
In the mornin'
In the eve-nin'
Ain't we got fun?

Abiotic, is it? Hey, maybe it's antibiotic, and cures (pick your favourite disease), AND!! it's included under this new bloody statist 'healthcare' plan!

And (said he, channelling the late Billy Mays) wait! There's more! This is a ONCE IN A LIFETIME chance to see real-live bullshit in action. AND!

It won't even cost you $19.95!! Order now!...and if you order within 15.349827 minutes, we'll throw in a FREE key to the US Treasury's printing presses!

Joe...m'FRiend, dontcha get just bloody tired of this kwapola? I do.

Nonetheless, best to ya!

18 posted on 03/29/2010 11:27:06 PM PDT by SAJ (Zerobama? A phony and a prick, ergo a dildo.)
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To: BenKenobi

“There are more fossil fuel theories than just ‘peak oil’, which has consistantly been proven wrong.”

The theory of ‘peak oil’ as I understand it refers to the peak of oil production of a given field, and is based on geology. It was originally proposed by Marion Hubbert based on his work as the chief geologist for Shell Oil and was originally known as ‘Hubbert’s peak’ theory. From what I have read it has been proven correct over and over again by the production rates of many field of differing sizes. Even the Ghawar field is showing the same predicted production behavior.

What ‘peak oil’ theory are you referring to that has been consistently proven wrong.


19 posted on 03/29/2010 11:33:19 PM PDT by AussieJoe
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I’m referring to the alarmist position wrt to total worldwide oil reserves. We were already supposed to be out of oil 10 years ago according to their predictions.

I’m not referring to the principle behind the wells and their usual lifespan.


20 posted on 03/29/2010 11:37:16 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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