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Obama Birth Certificate - Hawaii Revised Law
vibe.us ^ | 12/27/2008 | Forsetti

Posted on 02/24/2010 6:02:13 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan

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To: TigersEye

AMEN!! Why would anyone hire a LIAR who has blatantly Laundered, Obfuscated and Disappeared His Entire LIFE HISTORY?? OBOBO HUSSEIN’S RESUME would be thrown out of every employer’s search effort because of all the empty spaces! Hopefully, Dr. cashill will dedicate some articles to why someone might hide their entire past including their BC, School Academic History, Drug Usage/Convictions, Communist/Terrorist Affiliations, Racist Affiliations and Proven Hatred for AMERICA, Her Traditions, History, Culture and Judeo-Christian Heritage! Mr. OBOZO should apologize for his accusations that AMERICA is NOT a Christian Nation! We are 85% Christian by every POLL of any Reputation. We ain’t Muslim! contrary to his derants and we dont have 57 states as the Muslim Caliphates just by coincidence number 57!! Was that an accidental or intential mis speak he made when he claimed he had visited all except 2 of 57 States??
Thats a Freakin Big Blunder! unless he was showing his Muslin Sponsors how stupid Us Ameicans are in his bizarre and twisted mind.....


22 posted on 02/24/2010 6:29:18 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: rogertarp
"This stuff is pushing us to the margins and it is totally hokum"
Yeah, asking that the constitution be upheld is "totally hokum."

Seeing as you just found your way to the site a couple of days ago try researching the subject prior to showing your lack of knowledge.

Welcome aboard.

23 posted on 02/24/2010 6:34:49 PM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: rogertarp

“He is killing himself politically ...”

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He is very much alive and kicking, don’t fool yourself.


24 posted on 02/24/2010 6:41:01 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Part two:

Now here’s the mechanism for the author’s evil little intent:

“From an evidence standpoint, five of the six above vital records procedures support the argument that Hawaii’s birth certificate printout, called a Certification of Live Birth, is a summary derived from 1961 business records that lack an adequate indicia of reliability that would afford the trier of fact a satisfactory basis for evaluating the truth of document’s statements.”

Let me put this into another example form BuckeyeTexan, that you have experience with. Assume:

Texas State law provides 3 ways of obtaining a title to a vehicle:

1) The applicant presents a notarized bill of sale to himself at the DMV.

2) The applicant applies for a title based on the abandonment of the vehicle on his property for a period of 120 days.

3) The applicant gives a bond that neither of the two above ways are applicable.

Now, common sense tells you 2 of these 3 ways are more prone to fraud. You could lie on No.2, and give phony addresses of owners, etc. You get a $1,000 car for free. On No. 3, the amount of the bond is probably 150% the value of the car, say $1500 on a $1000 car, and would cost $150 to obtain. If a crook, applicant gets the $1,000 car for $150.

Both number 2 and 3 have an economic incentive to lie.

Now this calculating author wold approach it like this:

Since 2 of the 3 ways that one could get a Texas vehicle license are fraught with the potential of fraud, and lack indicia of reliability, such that a judge can not determine the truth of a Texas vehicle title. Therefore, no Texas vehicle title can be presumed valid.

See the illogic: First, the potential for fraud is characterized as actualized fraud. Which is jumping to a legal conclusion without any evidence. And by using “2/3” of the PROCEDURES as bad, he makes 100% of the Texas titles look bad.

Problem is, 99% of the titles are obtained by method no. 1 which are not fraught with potential of fraud. So, where the truth is maybe 1% of 1% are fraud, he has managed to make all 100% look bad.

parsy, who says “Nice trick, Foretti, but you can’t slip that past me!”


25 posted on 02/24/2010 6:42:42 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: presently no screen name

There is one group of Americans that I can think of that would — RATs and RINOs.


26 posted on 02/24/2010 6:44:20 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: rogertarp; pissant; mojitojoe

Pissant and mojitojoe, take a look at this one!

You find it futile and distractive from - what?

You think people can’t do more than one thing at a time? YOu think the fact that he may very well be ineligible to be president not worth taking a look at or trying to find the truth about?

Odd. Plus, you want the mods to get rid of it. And you’re a steaming noob.

I suspect that 0bama hirelings want this topic shut down.


27 posted on 02/24/2010 6:45:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: 353FMG

NOT like this occupant! And his NRE for our military, the list is endless.


28 posted on 02/24/2010 6:47:20 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Part 3:

The legal standard stuff.

First, he sets forth various legal standards. OK. Beyond a reasonable doubt is a little heavy for civil stuff. Usually, clear and convincing is more than enough. I “suspect” he put it in to give the whole question that fun little criminal slant.

The states have filing requirements. Presumably, they can accept what documents they deem necessary. I suspect birth certificates will satisfy them . I suspect Hawaii’s will satisfy them since it is Hawaii’s official documentation. Maybe they will want an original certified copy. Nothing wrong with that.

Oh, what was the point of all this stuff he wrote? Language to cast doubt without really saying anything.

parsy, who is not impressed with Forseti


30 posted on 02/24/2010 6:51:23 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

BOOKMARK.


31 posted on 02/24/2010 6:54:23 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: LucyT; rxsid; STARWISE

Ping

Very interesting...


32 posted on 02/24/2010 6:55:21 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: bigbob
like the fact that he’s wrecking the country.

I think he is wrecking the country on purpose. He is not that stupid to not know what he is doing.

Either he personally hates America, or he is destroying the country on behalf of someone else, perhaps both.

If he is collaborating with others, they will do all in their power to protect themselves, even if it means covering his lies as long as long as he does their bidding for them.

33 posted on 02/24/2010 6:58:34 PM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: rogertarp

Amen! It is marginalizing the conservatives. But, the birthers catch so much flack here, no one can accuse Free Republic of being a birther zone. But, the world can see us trying to police our own. They don’t scare me.

parsy, who says its Jim Thompson’s call


34 posted on 02/24/2010 7:03:01 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: rogertarp

35 posted on 02/24/2010 7:06:21 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: parsifal

bullshit

the top constitutional scholars in the country easily prove he’s a usurper

“we were birther
when birther wasn’t cooo-hool”

the fraudster/gulliblers are the ones who bought hook line and sinker his fakeries

OBAMA HAS NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE TO PROVE WHO HE IS


36 posted on 02/24/2010 7:07:04 PM PST by capacommie
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To: rogertarp; little jeremiah

Welcome to FR. You really think 60-70% of long time freepers are DU plants?


37 posted on 02/24/2010 7:09:39 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: capacommie

Well, one of the “top constitutional lawyers”, Orly Taitz, is hiding out over at the U.N. from what I hear. The 10th Pakistani Mountain Division is guarding her. Commandos from Sierra Leone’s Elite Jungle Warriors force are providing internal security. And members of the Kenyan Royal Marines are guarding the harbor.

parsy


38 posted on 02/24/2010 7:11:36 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal
Your obsession with Orly is getting really freaky.
39 posted on 02/24/2010 7:14:58 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

What can I say? Its just those Moldavan chicks are so smokin’ hot!

parsy, who is usually scared of women


40 posted on 02/24/2010 7:19:46 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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