Obama Birth Certificate - Hawaii Revised Law

vibe.us ^ | 12/27/2008 | Forsetti

[rxsid]

"No. There was no reason for her to commit fraud to register his birth in Hawaii, even if he were born outside the US. Under immigration laws at the time, he was eligible for naturalized citizenship as the minor child of a US citizen. All his mom would have to do is fill out an application and produce proof of her own citizenship, as well as her maternity."

Going through the naturalization process is more costly, both in terms of money and time. Far easier (& cheaper) for her to take advantage of the very loose law's of Hawaii Law 57.

[curiosity]

Okay, so suppose Bambi's long-form says it was an unattended birth.

What then? The burden of proof will be on the birthers to show it's fraudulant. How are you going to do that?

[curiosity]

Going through the naturalization process is more costly, both in terms of money and time.

I doubt it. Do you have a link to back that up?

Far easier (& cheaper) for her to take advantage of the very loose law's of Hawaii Law 57.

It would have required her to commit a felony. No sane person is going to commmit a felony to obtain something that could be otherwise gotten legally.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Birthers want only an affirmation of their suspicions. They wouldn’t accept a long form if it were produced today. They’d claim that Obama has had plenty of time to produce a perfect forgery.

I had not seen the actual Hawaii Revised statutes from microfilm, so I thought that was interesting. I also hadn’t heard anything about “foundling” birth registration so that was a new one for me.

Here let me start a whole new conspiracy ... Stanley Ann found Obama! That’s how she was able to attend classes in Washington only 15 days after Obama’s birth. That’s why she didn’t know how to change a diaper!

Bwahahaha.

[pissant]

If it was an unattended HI birth it will just prove he is a liar by recently claiming to be born at Kapi’olani hospital. But we already know he is a rank liar, so that wouldn’t get us very far.

Frankly, I think he may well be HI born. I just don’t believe he’s related to Obama Sr. The ONLY things I’m certain of is that he is hiding something and that the COLB is fraudulent.

[rxsid]

"Unfortunately, 100% of the Congress chose to accept Obama as eligible, even though through unidentified proxies (with potential future deniability) he stipulated that the children of his father were governed by the 1948 BNA.

I would contend, that a very large majority of Congress had no clue that Barry was born the subject of a foreign crown. Heck, most of them have no clue as to the difference between a "citizen" and a "natural born citizen" as evidenced by their reply's to inquires about Barry's eligibility.

As for the others, I believe that this all boils down to his race. There was not a single person in Congress (or in the "big" media/radio) that was going to go out on a limb to try and expose the first "black" POTUS...even though he's more white and arabic than black. He simply wasn't going to be denied, especially in light of his high popularity ratings both before and right after the election.

Of course, the tide may eventually turn. Think in terms of the Nixon timeline.

[rxsid]

"Going through the naturalization process is more costly, both in terms of money and time."

I doubt it. Do you have a link to back that up?

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You, then, clearly haven't gone through the process, nor know of anyone who has.

Far easier (& cheaper) for her to take advantage of the very loose law's of Hawaii Law 57.

It would have required her to commit a felony. No sane person is going to commmit a felony to obtain something that could be otherwise gotten legally.

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So your saying a "fellow world traveler" would not be willing to lie in order to save time and money? Your not living in the real world if you believe that.

[MilspecRob]

bump for later

[Beckwith]

Whatever you say, Pansy.

[parsifal]

“What the author fails to do is distinguish between the possible and the plausible”

I love the way you phrased that! I would looking for those words.

parsy, who didn’t find them on his own

[parsifal]

OMG! Have I taught you nothing?

parsy, who isn’t feeling like Teacher of the Year material right now

[Beckwith]

Re: “He is a liar by recently claiming to be born at Kapi’olani hospital.”

Especially when he publicly said he was born at Queens Medical Center — http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/ObamaQueensHospital.jpg

And the Honolulu Star-Bulletin reported he was born at Queens Medical Center — http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/ObamaBornQueensMedical.jpg

Organizing for America too — http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/QueensHospital01.jpg

[parsifal]

No. Its whatever the law says. Read the law. That’s the point. You don’t have to like the law. You just have to respect it.

parsy, who was not alive in 1898

[Beckwith]

Are you an attorney?

[curiosity]

You, then, clearly haven't gone through the process, nor know of anyone who has.

I know people who have. Now the procedure for getting minor children of US citizens naturalized is pretty straightforward and not particularly expensive.

I don't know what it was like in 1961, but I see no reason to believe it was any different.

[tired_old_conservative]

Polarik is unqualified to make the representations he did, particularly in the way he did. It's problems are self-evident if you've ever worked with people who do forensic document examination. They've been debunked on multiple occasions. Here's one example from a guy who actually does this sort of thing for a living, with real credentials:

http://hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?%2Farchives%2F235-Bad-Science-How-Not-To-Do-Image-Analysis-Part-II.html

Also, Polarik was finally identified: “The identity of “Ron Polarik” has been found to be Ronald Polland, PhD of Florida. Dr. Polland is an ardent supporter of Israel, and has no academic credentials in image analysis.”

That's what's so clinical about all this nonsense. Birthers start with the answer and simply latch on to anything that supports it, no matter how obviously ridiculous. And they repeat it forever because facts don't mean anything to them.

[pissant]

Yup. And thank you for keeping up on all this for us!!

[Dajjal]

obumpa

[TigersEye]

That doesn’t wash. I just posted the statement of a forensic expert that does support his conclusions. You libs stand on the thinnest excuse for logic imaginable.

[tired_old_conservative]

You posted nothing credible and have no idea what you’re talking about. That’s why you spout this nonsense, which has nothing to do with logic.