Obama Dolts & Jew-Hating Jews MacFarlane, Friedman & Bill Maher: Attacking Sarah Palin & Children OK

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[kabar]

So are you saying that a mother who has converted to Judaism can pass on her Jewishness to her offspring?

I find it ironic that if such rules really exist since you are not positive nor are you a Jew, it resembles what Hitler did with tracing the ancestry of Germans to determine if they were pure Aryans. I was stationed in Berlin while it was still an occupied city and there was a place called the Berlin Document Center that contained, among other things, many records tracing the ancestry of Nazi officials and the SS, which they had to provide to show they were pure Germans.

Is Judaism a race or a religion?

[autumnraine]

It’s not a race, you can’t “convert” to a race, therefore it is a religion. However I’d imagine the same thing applies in circumcision. The “son of Abraham” shown by circumcision. Black christian boys who have been circumsized, or red haired Irish descendants are most likely not of Abraham’s DNA/lineage but is brought into the fold of “Abraham’s son” by the act of circumcision.

I also think the concept of religion being “inherited” from the mother isn’t about ancestry as much as even a converted jewish mother, by the child typically being reared by the mother even if the father is away at work or war, would be taught the jewish faith and rituals. That’s the I see it, I don’t think it has to do with being “pure” as a race, or even being “pure” at all. More to do with the mom being the one doing the cooking, therefore can prepare kosher and also bring the young child up speaking Yiddish.

I don’t think it’s anything like the Nazi’s and their quest for a “pure” Aryan race.

[kabar]

So are you saying that a mother converted to Judaism can pass on the "religion" to her offspring?

Maher didn't even know his mother was Jewish until he was a teenager. She was not a practicing Jew. And yet the subject of this post is that Maher was a self-hating Jew.

You seem to be dancing around the issue of purity and what constitutes a Jew. The idea that to be a "real" Jew you must have a Jewish mother makes this more than a religion. I can't think of any other major religion that one can inherit a religion and that it must come from the mother. I find the entire premise of inheriting a religion abhorrent. And it does resemble the Nazi concept of an Arayan race and being a pure German.

And the fact that Maher has no control over the premise that he is considered a Jew despite the fact that he was raised as a Catholic and never practiced Judaism is not what this country is about. Everyone has the right to choose his religion and not inherit it. Muslims will not recognize a conversion to another religion, but even they don't believe that you are born a Muslim or that the religion is inherited.

[autumnraine]

“Muslims will not recognize a conversion to another religion, but even they don’t believe that you are born a Muslim or that the religion is inherited.”

Not true. Islam is “inherited” through the parents. If you reject Islam, you are considered an apostate as well.

[kabar]

But someone can convert to Islam and be considered a Muslim whether their parents were Muslims or not. Their is nothing in Islam about the mother conveying religion to the child.

[Kickass Conservative]

>”If your Mother is Jewish, you are Jewish.
What constitutes a “Jewish mother?” If she had converted to Judiasm, can she convey Jewishness to her offspring?”<

Don't confuse being Jewish because you were born to a Jewish Mother with practicing the Jewish Religion or any other Religion. You can be a Jew practicing the Islamic Faith, but you are still a Jew.

>”Bill Maher is an insult to the Jewish Religion.
He never a practiced the Jewish religion. He was a Catholic.”<

Bill Maher is a Jew because his Mother was a Jew. The fact that his Family followed the Catholic Religion has no bearing. I should have said he is an insult to other Jews, not the Jewish Religion. I stand corrected in that regard.

[kabar]

Don't confuse being Jewish because you were born to a Jewish Mother with practicing the Jewish Religion or any other Religion. You can be a Jew practicing the Islamic Faith, but you are still a Jew.

So exactly what is a Jew? If it is not a religion, is it an ethnicity, race, or whatever?

Bill Maher is a Jew because his Mother was a Jew.

And how does one verify or prove that someone is a Jew? If one converts to Judaism, are you a real Jew? Or must your mother have been Jewish and not a convert to Judaism?

[Kickass Conservative]

Here is the best answer I can give you, from a Rabbi.
Having had Jewish friends my whole life, I have always believed what the Rabbi has written below. This was the Rabbi’s answer when the question was posed to him:

“While a Christian is defined as one who follows the teachings of Jesus, a Jew is defined as one born from a Jewish mother or converted according to Jewish Law. That being said - a person remains a member of the Jewish nation for the rest of their life regardless of what religious practices that person chooses to follow/reject. And yes, as a nation we have our own culture, foods, land, and even diseases”.

I hope this helps,
Rabbi Ari Enkin

[kabar]

That being said - a person remains a member of the Jewish nation for the rest of their life regardless of what religious practices that person chooses to follow/reject.

That is pure sophistry if I ever heard it. So much for free will and freedom of association.

[Kickass Conservative]

I'm just the messenger. Most of the Jews I know pretty much believe the same thing, including my Late Brother In-Law who almost became a Rabbi in his younger years.

Being a Catholic, I obviously can't agree with or dispute the Rabbi's opinion. I can only speak from my experience and interactions with those of the Jewish Faith.

Have a good night.