Posted on 08/22/2009 7:51:32 AM PDT by Arizona SCG
The Kenyan thing was not part of her original filing, but added later. She has been attempting to force Obama to go through Discovery in the attempt to get a COURT ORDER for Obama’s birth Documents. If she is successful in getting that... Oh yea.. There will be a truck load of poo doo hitting the biggest fan evah! It would be a massive victory.
I dont see it happening unless congress acts.
I don’t see congress acting until we take it back.
I think she was on the right track with Major Cook... that was a bigger victory than people realize... just no follow up. We need more Cooks... its the only “standing” we have outside of Congress acting, and that will take too long.
I expect that Judge Carter will handle the case strictly according to the law. Which is why it won't get anywhere.
If she is such a screw up, there must really be something to Taitz's July 15 filing for Judge Carter to be compelled to continue to accept it.
Ah but he wasn't compelled to accept it. He could have dismissed the case on a technicality, but instead he gave her a second chance and literally walked her through what she should have done if the first place. If he had dismissed the case on procedural grounds then she could have just refiled it. It's better to let it proceed. It won't get very far.
That must really irk you, huh?
Not in the slightest. The entertainment I get from watching Tatitz and her antics is something money just can't buy. She's the reason why villages had idiots.
Yes, well y'all have your own hearing problems.
What an intelligent response, Non-Seq. You must be working overtime spamming on other boards and ignoring FR. Remember: quality over quantity. It saddens me -- LOL. You do, of course, realize there's a lot more reason to beleive that Ann Dunham, Obama's mama, was not in Hawaii when she gave birth in August 1961. NOT EVEN OBAMA seems to know where his mother was in 1961-1962, like he demonstrates here:
In 1959, at the age of twenty-three, he (Barack Obama Sr) arrived at the University of Hawaii as that institutions first African student. In a Russian language course, he met an awkward, shy American girl, only eighteen, and they fell in love. The girls parents, wary at first, were won over by his charm and intellect; the young couple married, and she bore them a son, to whom he bequeathed his name. He won another scholarship-this time to pursue his Ph.D. at Harvard-but not the money to take his new family with him. A separation occurred, and he returned to Africa to fulfill his promise to the continent. The mother and child stayed behind Conflicting with OBAMA'S OWN wordsfrom http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=pf_output.cfm&file_id=8926Dunham also registered for classes at the University of Washington for both the winter and spring quarters of 1962. (She took extension courses, attending classes at night, during the autumn 1961 and winter 1962 quarters, but in the spring of 1962 switched to a more traditional schedule, attending classes during the day. Her grades were good: Of the seven classes she took that academic year, she had three As and three Bs; she audited the seventh course.) Neighbor Toutonghi periodically babysat Barack for a couple of months while Dunham attended night classes during the early months of 1962. Years later Toutonghi recounted, I remember his being very large and very curious and very alert ... . I dont remember any undue fussing at all (Neyman); maybe this was a harbinger of the future laid-back persona that the president would become known for decades later. But what Dunham and her young son did in Seattle after the end of the 1962 spring quarter is mostly a mystery, though they stayed for at least part of the summer of 1962. High school classmate Barbara Rusk recalls visiting them at the Capitol Hill apartment during that summer, noting that Dunham was not in school or working at the time. Other friends have also suggested the two stayed through at least part if not all of the summer. But in December 1962 Dunham transferred her transcript to the University of Hawaii, and enrolled there in the spring quarter of 1963. Given the demands that the young single mother faced raising her infant son alone in Seattle, they may have left shortly after Baracks first birthday -- perhaps about the time the future president was taking his first steps. |
Of course not.
Any substantial evidence to back up your claim? Or just that CertificaTION of Live Birth that is as flimsy as Mr Obama’s record of keeping his campaign promises to his simple-minded constituents?
Sorry, I'm not the one making claims, you are. Specifically, Obama's mother wasn't in Hawaii when he was born. You did notice that the transcript you posted said she registered in March 1962, didn't you?
Obama is the one making the claims of eligibility.
The Court is not going forward on discovery. The Court is going to hear Orly's motion asking for discovery.
I expect that motion to be denied.
And you're trying to show that he isn't. How's that going?
Fine, thanks. But he’s the one making the original claim. So if the claimant is responsible for the proof, as you told BP2, then Obama’s on the hook. But he won’t cough it up until the pressure builds to do so.
And you working your level best to ensure that the pressure does not continue to grow must make you feel all warm and fuzzy.
Yeah, how's that going for you?
And you working your level best to ensure that the pressure does not continue to grow must make you feel all warm and fuzzy.
Are you kidding me? Orly Taitz has done more to make you Birthers look like flaming idiots than I could ever do. I mean really, is there nothing that twit can do that would discomfort you? Look at the post that started this thread: "ORLY TAITZ ANNOUNCES SCHEDULED DISCOVERY HEARING FOR SEPT. 8TH BY JUDGE CARTER". A flat out, complete lie. As anyone who bothered to look at the judge's order would see. On a par with her bullshit claim back in July that the judge said the case would go to trial. I will pretty much guarantee you that this case will never go to trial, for the same lack of standing reasons that all your other Birther cases have failed, This woman gives a whole new meaning to the word 'inept', and she's your bright, shining legal light. Her and Donofrio and Berg. The new Three Stooges. So please don't get on me about giving 'aid and comfort' to the Obama camp. He doesn't need any help from me. He and his people are no doubt laughing themselves sick over you and your buddies and your phoney birth certificates and your tinfoil conspiracies and all the rest of your hokum. Why should he do anything to make you all go away? Birthers're one of the few things going right for him nowadays. You make all his opposition look like loonies.
Orly may be prone to exaggeration, but she has enough sense to see that Obama is a rank marxist lying sack of poop, and that something is amiss about his birth circumstances.
Something you may learn someday if you gain a bit of wisdom.
Not everthing you read in the MSM is true. Obama has not shown his BC. Obama has not had the COLB confirmed as a legitimately issued HI legal document. Obama has not had the information on the COLB verified by Onaka, Fukino, or any other HI authority.
You can pretend all you want that he has, that he has proven NBC, that someone along the way actually vetted him, but pretending don’t make it real.
Just like the leftists in the MSM you throw out “tin foil” and “conspiracies” to justify your fellating. It is a very simple demand on our part. Show us the real birth records. Period. No conspiracy, nothing elaborate, nothing beyond common sense.
Is there a link to the actual court filings leading to the hearing?
As I understand it, she is seeking to prove or disprove the bona fides of the purported Kenyan birth certificate. (This is not one of the nultiple fraudulent ones that were generated by the opposition to obscure and confuse the public.)
If you create 11 fakes and debunk them, how many will still be around to listen when the 12th is discussed? It is easy to have the opposition lose interest by such tactics. Her only course is to continue to get proof of the authenticity of the document or proof that it is not authentic.
Our current pres_ent is completely risible.
'Prone to exaggeration'? Try 'tenuous grasp on reality'. 'Total disregard for the truth'.
You can pretend all you want that he has, that he has proven NBC, that someone along the way actually vetted him, but pretending dont make it real.
I've never said he has. I've just pointed out that you haven't shown he wasn't. And if you're banking your hopes on Orly Taitz then I'd say Obama has nothing to worry about.
Just like the leftists in the MSM you throw out tin foil and conspiracies to justify your fellating.
I throw out 'tin foil' and 'conspiracies' to explain why I find you all so funny.
It is a very simple demand on our part. Show us the real birth records. Period. No conspiracy, nothing elaborate, nothing beyond common sense.
Yeah, well Obama isn't cooperating with you. So the ball's back in your court. You'll have to come up with something on your own. How's that going?
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