Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
“The acid test for the authenticity of lack thereof of the Wood memo would be to compare the handwriting on it to the handwriting on (ideally) at least a dozen other documents known to have been written and/or signed by Mr. Wood.”
Handwriting analysis would be great but might not be necessary.
If the original physical memo exists instead of microfische that would be best.
If William F Wood II is still alive he could identify his handwriting and confirm anything that he remembered from 50 years ago (always problematic, IMO, in political/celebrity cases).
Everything in the Wood memo is hearsay comprising what BHO Sr. told Wood on that date, and has been or can be cross corroborated by other contemporaneous documents or witnesses that could be entered into evidence or called as witnesses.
The following key claims that Wood records would all need to be independently proved up using “best evidence” which the Wood memo is NOT:
1. Was there a marriage?
2. Where was the birth, starting with where is a legally released BC with full discovery?
When Ann went to Seattle and when her classes started and at which school are not particularly germane to Barry’s eligibility.
You have a long road ahead of you...and I don’t know if I’m up to it, to go through it all again.
Susan Blake gave a long, somewhat scripted, video interview which has now been cut down to a few seconds, in which she described how Stanley Ann Dunham sent her a postcard to tell her she would be visiting, how she had borrowed a car from a friend of her mother’s on Mercer Island to do so, and how she showed up with an almost newborn, whose diaper she didn’t know how to change. And after telling Susan how in love she was with a black man from Kenya, she left, to go East, (Susan mistakenly said to join her husband in Boston, but the kenyan didn’t leave Hawaii until June 22, 1962)
AND SUSAN NEVER SAW HER AGAIN.
That was of course, before the address for ANNA OBAMA was found.
Both of SAD’s ‘best friends’ from Mercer Island High School, who attended the U of WA never said a word about her attending the U of WA with them, they obviously didn’t know she was there at the same time they were?
The ‘memories’ of visiting with SAD at the Seattle address appeared miraculously after the address in the Polk and Reverse Directory were found.
You make good points. Also, my roommate in college was legally named ‘Ann’. She went through a phase where she asked everyone to call her ‘Anna’. (We complied.) Later she reverted back to Ann. It happens.
“I’m sceptical of the entire scenario, right from when he left Kenya, of which Kezia is reported to have said her son was six years old when she said goodbye to him at the airport.”
The Malik was “six years old when she said goodbye” was a scribble by a reporter in one (notoriously unreliable) newspaper article and corroborated by no other account, IIRC.
Haven’t you yourself posted the picture with BHO Sr., Mooney, Kezia and baby infant Roy (Malik) having a picnic dated 1959, IIRC, right before he left for Hawaii? That would make Malik exactly the age he (and Wiki) says he is and not age six.
“Both of SAD’s ‘best friends’ from Mercer Island High School, who attended the U of WA never said a word about her attending the U of WA with them, they obviously didn’t know she was there at the same time they were?”
IIRC, as soon as Stanley Ann’s friends started gushing about how they saw baby Barry in Seattle in late August political pressure appears to have been applied to preserve Barry’s 2004 DNC speech highlighting the fraudulent “little family for two years in Hawaii dreaming of Barry’s future.” The friends all clammed up when more questions started being asked than Barry’s team appears to have been comfortable with.
I note that the Mal-Val Narrative favored by a handful of FReepers requires that Stanley Ann is NOT Barry mom and never went to Seattle with Baby Barry or even saw Barry before 1963.
See this link for more on the narrative claim that Stanley Ann Dunham is not Barry’s mom and BHO Sr. is not his dad:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts?page=265
ping to the Mal-Val Narrative link, incase you missed it:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts?page=265
Get over yourself. The author of that book had the UNREDACTED immigration file for two years before Smathers received what we are now looking at. That’s where the photograph came from.
Yes, it’s possible the group comprised of Kezia, a toddler, Elizabeth Mooney, the kenyan student and an unnamed man.
But the child hasn’t got ‘Roy Malik Abongo Obama’ on his forehead.
And we can’t know what was going through Kezia’s head when she said what she said. And how about you post a picture or a document to back up your mouth every now and then?
Ever heard of “I REPORT - YOU DECIDE”? Why is the only way your way? No one else is allowed to think?
HRS § 338-21 reads:
“Legitimation. (a) All children born out of wedlock, irrespective of the marriage of either parent to another, become legitimate on the marriage of the parents with each other and are entitled to the same rights as those born in wedlock and shall take their father’s name as a family name.
The child or children or the parents thereof may petition the department of health to issue a new certificate of birth in the new name of the legitimated child, and the department shall issue the new certificate of birth upon being satisfied that the child or children has or have been legitimated.”
OK, have it your way, I was waiting for that. Anything that interferes with your scenario isn’t allowed to be posted, you don’t want freepers to have any information that doesn’t agree with your notions. Fine. I’m fed up with you all over again, so you can carry on. You’ve killed the thread just as you always do. You are a very very sick man, but I’ve told you that before.
HOWEVER, LET ME THANK YOU FOR DRAWING ATTENTION TO THE BLENDING OF TWO WOMEN TO FORM THE MOTHER-MYTH OF STANLEY ANN DUNAHM.
Did you learn your bully tactics while you were employed at that high security prison you wrote about? That’s got to have something to do with your inflexible, unbending personality. The stage is yours. Do what you like with it. But as usual, after I’ve been driven off by your disgusting attitude, the thread dies.
AND THAT’S WHAT YOU REALLY WANT, ISN’T IT?
I can only speak for my own experience, but it is certainly legitimate to share it here & now. I’ve had interactions w Carp. On some points we disagree—& (1) that is true to this day, & (2) Carp knows it. He has never tried to force me to agree w him, nor has he attacked or insulted me over our points of disagreement. He treats me w respect. If he gets a chance to present evidence to bolster his position, he takes it. But he has never even come close to bullying me or exerting any kind of coercion, & that is a fact.
Now re: those who are accusing Carp of such nasty tactics. Everything they are ascribing to him, THEY have done to ME. Everything, that is, & much, much more/worse. This is simply rank hypocrisy. No, scratch that. It is sickening hypocrisy. It is projection on an order I have never witnessed before. Those who wish to see civility prevail, please take note. I am still waiting to see Carp do the things he’s been accused of. I’m not waiting to see his accusers to them; they’ve done them all & far, far worse To Me.
You are a talented researcher/investigator.
I agree with your “I REPORT - YOU DECIDE” position.
I apologize that I cannot post sources at the moment but I do want to state that the photograph that you and SeizetheCarp were talking about, that photograph absolutely is Kezia, Malik, Mooney, Obama Sr., and and an unidentified man. The photograph was taken in 1959 and before the Air Lift.
"Anna" was Anna Chin, not Stanley Ann Dunhham.
(”We hold that the mere listing of [a parent’s] name on the . . . birth certificate is insufficient to prove paternity under our statute requiring such proof to be made by clear and convincing evidence.”)
Thanks, what you wrote about that photograph seems reasonable. However, when you say 'before the airlift' I think you might mean before the kenyan flew to New York and ultimately arrived in Hawaii. For the sake of accuracy (which is in limited supply!) the kenyan student was NOT part of the airflift of students arranged by Tom Mboya and paid for by the AASF.
Gina did not identify Child One’s father on Child One’s original birth certificate. At some point after Child One’s birth, Child One’s birth certificate was changed to reflect Egan as her father.
The new birth certificate bears the same certificate number as the original, as well as the same receipt date, which is identified as September 17, 1996, six days after Child One’s birth.
While the original certificate did not identify either Child One’s “father’s name” or “father’s race,” the new certificate identifies Child One’s father as “Egan Hajime Inoue,” and her father’s race as “Japanese.”
Inoue v. Inoue, 185 P. 3d 834 - Haw: Intermediate Court of Appeals 2008
I think we all understand by now that a birth certificate is not proof of identity. But thanks.
Less answers meant less he had to keep straight and explain later. Birds of a feather - Sr. certainly fell in with the same crowd in HI.
I just meant that the picture was taken in the year 1959 and before the Mboya Airlifts.
You are correct, Obama Sr. did not travel to the USA via the Mboya Airlifts.
There you go again, playing the victim, stealing more oxygen, you have never, that I can recall, provided one lick of information that might have been of interest, it’s just poor poor me...and how upset you’ve been. Cry me a river. We have all had enough of a hard time trying to keep track of the misinformation deliberately spread by the paid operatives, let alone make time to correct such items as the stupid comment made by your hero; that I maintained SAD never saw the child until he was three years old. That’s one straight out of his addled brain. And life’s too short for that.
She took him to see Susan Blake when he was a few weeks old. She presented him as her own. And as there’s been no physical sign of her in Hawaii either before or after the miraculous birth, it’s fair to ask, whose child did she show to Susan Blake?
Like the man said, he didn’t go around with his birth certificate plastered to his forehead...
Stop whining and produce something interesting, your buddy is more than capable of sticking it to people with theories he doesn’t like, without your help.
Get cracking, we aren’t here to prove how clever we are, we are trying to fill in a few gaps in the flawed narrative.
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