Posted on 04/18/2009 11:03:17 AM PDT by Talkradio03
Really?
What law enforcement agency would that be? The LAPD? The County Sheriff? The CA National Guard? The Highway Patrol?
Please read the whole thread. I think you'll find your answer there.
Thanks for the follow-up.
Looks like you were wrong. Not "deputized." Not "State of California". Not "duly sworn."
Wrong. They are. They have a specific agreement with LA because the campus of USC is not a separate municipal entity from LA. As such, they have to operate under the legal constraints of the governing municipality. But, all those USC cops are graduates of California police academies. .
If you go to USC and act a fool. You'll get arrested - a very specific word only applicable to sworn law enforcement officers. You'll be arrested and you'll be Mirandized. On the other hand, If you shoplift in Walmart, you'll get detained by store security, but not arrested. You'll only be in POLICE custody when the cops arrive.
They are cops - I'm not sure why this is so difficult to understand. If you had spent any time on a private college campus, this wouldn't be such a shock to your system
USC isn't a "municipal entity" at all. It's a private institution.
As such, they have to operate under the legal constraints of the governing municipality. But, all those USC cops are graduates of California police academies. .
Some guards are graduates, some are not. The ones with guns are.
If you go to USC and act a fool. You'll get arrested - a very specific word only applicable to sworn law enforcement officers.
Some of the guards have limited arrest powers under the MOU and the California Penal Code. But that penal code goes so far as to state that they are "NOT Peace Officers." They're covered under the same section that gives the power of arrest to Cemetary guards. And last I looked, "acting like a fool" does not violate the law -- else they'd have to arrest a whole lot of students at USC.
You'll be arrested and you'll be Mirandized.
Actually, no. Anyone arrested is turned over to the LAPD who will do any necessary marandizing. Again -- they have "limited" arrest powers.
They are cops - I'm not sure why this is so difficult to understand. If you had spent any time on a private college campus, this wouldn't be such a shock to your system
Wrong. See above.
By the way, I live in L.A. and go to the USC campus 2-4 times a month.
How about you?
Oh brother...First I never said that they're are a municipality. I said that they precisely weren't a municipality.
When I was 17 (too many years ago to remember), I was arrested (with my two friends) at a USC/Notre Dame game for something I won't repeat. But, it had something to do with long lines at the porta-johns.
I was handcuffed taken to a area near the stadium, but on the campus, and was issued a citation from a campus Cop written on a LAPD (or it could have been an LA County, I can't remember anymore) ticket book. It was a fine that I had to pay at the LA County Courthouse not to USC.
I'm pretty confident that renta-cops can't issue city, county or state fines. But, that's just a guess.
Spent a semester as a guest lecturer at USC in the late 90's. Don't live in LA anymore, but have spent about 3 years there over a 20 year period. Any other questions?
Yes, I agree. USC DPS has authority from the LAPD and in accordance with state penal code to issue citations. But that doesn’t have anything to do with what I posted.
Yes. After reading it, it sounds arrogant. It wasn't intended as such. But, clearly people who go to state schools may have a different experience than people who go to private schools. I wasn't issuing a condemnation of his education.
The point that I was trying to make, is many people not familiar with private campuses, but especially private campus's as large as USCs, do not understand that the Campus Police are much more than just mall security guards.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.