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Obamaunism 101: The Stanley Ann and Madelyn Dunham factor

Posted on 12/14/2008 3:52:20 PM PST by jetxnet

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To: Chief Engineer

Chief, you have some wonderful stuff.

It’s a pity you rarely attach sources/links.

They would be greatly appreciated.


381 posted on 02/05/2009 12:20:14 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Chief Engineer

That video, “Stanley Ann displays parenting skills,” has been removed from YouTube, “at the request of the user.”


382 posted on 02/05/2009 12:22:45 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Beckwith; John Valentine

The “very new and very pink” excerpt was in one of the Susan Blake videos as well as the Seattle news article written by Jonathon Martin found here:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004334057_obama08m.html

The houses article from “The Honolulu Advertiser” can be found here:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081109/NEWS01/811090361/-1/SPECIALOBAMA08

Confirmation of the home on Kamehameha Ave. appears on p.39 of Jr’s book when he talks about the walking tours past “the private landmarks of a family” when his father visited in 1971. He says he was shown “...my grandparents’ first house in Hawaii, before the one on University Ave., a house I had never known..” We know that Obama Sr was recovering from a car accident in which he had injured his leg and was using a cane so he couldn’t walk 14 miles return to view a house on Kalanianaole Hwy. Freeper John Valentine has also verified he knew the Dunhams in 1960-61 and mentions them living on Kamehameha Ave.
The matter regarding health care in Canada is from personal memory and verified on wiki, yes I know it is wiki but it is accurate regarding medical care in Canada.
Anymore links you want just ping me as I try to play catch up to the point where I left off last night.


383 posted on 02/05/2009 12:33:16 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Beckwith; BP2

Do you have a copy of it on ObamaFiles? There was also one at the Chicago Trib website that was probably removed as well. Other information was found on the Christian Faith and Reason site and BP2 has a copy of it as a cached version. I have a printout of it which I used when I wrote the author Michael Patrick Leahy regarding mistakes he made in it. When I wrote Michael I did provide links which I am guilty of not providing when I post a response to a ping, partially because my computer runs very slowly with more than one window open. Just ask and I will post links for you as I notice a ping. I do have over 200 links in my “dirt in woodpile” folder.


384 posted on 02/05/2009 12:37:52 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: BP2; LucyT

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/2008/11/sitrep-obama-citizenship-nov-2-08-malcolm-x-in-the-middle.html

if you scroll way down on this page, there’s a snippet of the Susan Blake video.


385 posted on 02/05/2009 12:49:12 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Beckwith

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/2008/11/sitrep-obama-citizenship-nov-2-08-malcolm-x-in-the-middle.html

if you scroll way down on this page, there’s a snippet of the Susan Blake video.


386 posted on 02/05/2009 12:53:29 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Chief Engineer

Sorry I asked - I misunderstood and thought you were mentioning a scandal as the reason she purposely got pregnat, which got me scratching my head. I should have used my common sense.


387 posted on 02/05/2009 1:05:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Beckwith

>>>Many years later, Barack Jr., then in high school, found a clipping of the article in a family stash of birth certificates and old vaccination forms. Why wasn’t his name there, or his mother’s? He wondered, he later wrote, “whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”<<<

This doesn’t make any sense to me. If there was a stash of “family” BCs and vax forms, and none were his or his mother’s, whose were they? Just his grandparents? Or were some HIS but a totally different name??

Also, is this Abercrombie related to Neil in HI?


388 posted on 02/05/2009 1:19:14 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah

There are two Abercrombies, Neil aka Rep Neil Abercrombie D-Hezbollah as he is often referred to and his brother Hal. Hal is the one who had dinner with Obama Sr in San Francisco after Sr left Hawaii. Neil is the only one who mentions he knew both Ann and Obama Sr, he is an ardent Jr supporter and is the one who said in a May ‘08 interview that Jr was “trainable”. Both the Abercrombies were at UH at Manoa in 1960-61 as graduate students.
Jr never says whose birth certificates and vaccination forms were in the book along with a copy of the interview of Obama Sr which was done June 22,1962 before Obama Sr left Hawaii.


389 posted on 02/05/2009 1:46:29 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer

Thanks, so that’s who Hal is.

Totally weird that 0bama would mention BCs and vax forms NONE of which had his mother’s or his name on them! THe only conclusion I can think of is his and mother’s were removed, or some had different names? And why would this have anything to do with 0bama Sr? It doesn’t make sense to me.


390 posted on 02/05/2009 1:50:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah

The inclusion of that information in his fairytale doesn’t make any sense at all. It is as if the family stored their paperwork in a book along with the interview done with Obama Sr before he left the island. Remember Ann and Jr were still in WA state when Sr left the island so either Madelyn or Stanley had to cut it out of the paper and store it away. I will note that “The Honolulu Advertiser” actually went into their archives and reproduced excerpts of that interview when they wrote a story about Obama Sr which appeared in summer 2008. Here’s a link to that article:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20080829/NEWS05/808290416/-1/SPECIALOBAMA08


391 posted on 02/05/2009 2:03:19 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: LucyT

So indeed, why isn’t the CIA, FBI, Hillarty, Rush...why aren’t they all over this?


392 posted on 02/05/2009 2:21:10 PM PST by SisterK (building an underground economy one brick at a time)
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To: Chief Engineer

I would imagine that while the mythologies were being written, a lot of weed might have smoked or other substances. Might account for some of the flights of fancy or mysterious dead end rabbit holes.


393 posted on 02/05/2009 2:50:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: SisterK

If the FBI, CIA or Hitlery is on to this fraud, we might not know about it. Actually, most likely would not know.

Rush? That’s been hashed out. Entertainer, businessman - those hats probably are important to him than “fringe” theories that might or might not bear fruit. Maybe other reasons.


394 posted on 02/05/2009 2:51:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; ..
November 7, 1995, Stanley Ann (Dunham-Obama) Soetoro allegedly died of "ovarian cancer" at age "56." Her body was cremated; there was no funeral. Memorial service held in her honor at the University of Hawaii. No info on BHO attending; But "helped scatter her ashes over the Pacific Ocean." Problems with the story -- An alias for Stanley Ann Dunham was found as a "relative/associate" of Madelyn L. Dunham, Honolulu, HI: "Kelly A. Dunham." Dunhams had only one daughter, Stanley Ann. Therefore, Kelly Ann, who does not seem to have any other history, is likely an alias for Stanley Ann.
Thanks LucyT.
395 posted on 02/05/2009 2:59:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: maggief

from 1930 census (ancestry.com)

Name: Madelyn Payne
[Madelyn Lee Payne]
Home in 1930: Augusta, Butler, Kansas
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1923
Relation to Head of House: Daughter

Father’s Name: Rolla E
Mother’s Name: Leona
Race: White
Rolla E Payne 37
Leona Payne 32
Madelyn Payne 7
Charles Payne 5
Arlene Payne 3 8/12


396 posted on 02/05/2009 3:15:03 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: little jeremiah

Nothing about Obama’s early life makes any sense.

“is this Abercrombie related to Neil in HI?”

One and the same.


397 posted on 02/05/2009 3:23:55 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks, I’ll save this copy to cache.


398 posted on 02/05/2009 3:26:29 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Beckwith

I hope one day much of this sickening coverup will be revealed for what it is. Which all begs the question - would so much have to be hidden, lied about, and invented - if the truth was benign?

People don’t lie for no reason. They generally do it to falsely aggrandize themselves or hide wrong doing.


399 posted on 02/05/2009 3:30:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: maggief
Madelyn and Stanley (photo with obit)

Section: News Record Number: 10888484 Copyright (c) 2008 El Paso Times, a MediaNews Group Newspaper.

400 posted on 02/05/2009 3:32:21 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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