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A Warning To America From South Africa
Obama-Biden ^ | September 1, 2008 | Gemma Meyer

Posted on 09/01/2008 3:46:16 PM PDT by raybbr

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To: himno hero

A couple of points. The Romans couldn’t keep the republic. They got an empire when they started punishing their political opponents after they got out of office (that was the real reason behind Caesar’s becoming emperor). The church (both the Catholic and the Orthodox variations) didn’t support democracy. They were just fine with tyranny as long as they had a seat at the table. As to Africa and Islam, to hell with both of them.


21 posted on 09/01/2008 4:58:33 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: nmh

Sorry nmh,

that post was directed to joiseydude

I wonder if dud has children or grandchildren????


22 posted on 09/01/2008 4:58:57 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: himno hero
Western culture and others had shamen and witches but as people got educated their black hearted politics, influence and tricks were discovered and they were displaced.
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It was Christianity, especially after the invention of the printing press and wide distribution of the Bible, that finally tamed the warlords and superstitions of the Europe and is the foundation of the freedom we enjoy today.

Sadly, the Marxists and their Useful Idiots in our godless, Secular Humanist, government k-12 schools and our colleges and universities are doing all they can to destroy Christianity.

Marxism is our nation's **most** serious threat. Schools are the Marxists’ most important weapon.

23 posted on 09/01/2008 4:59:22 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

“Our government k-12 schools and our colleges and universities are the Marxists **most** important weapon.”

Actually, a history of America’s K-12 schools shows that they are of fascist origin, not Marxist. But you do make a good point overall.


24 posted on 09/01/2008 5:01:02 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: RKV

Rome’s largest failure was social decay and straying away from what made them successful. They matured and feasted in their immoral behavior to the point corruption moved in and the collapse came.

They ignore the points that made them rome, much is what the G7 is doing through liberal immigration policies. Look at the UK, germany , france all faltering now as we speak.


25 posted on 09/01/2008 5:04:32 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: wintertime

I concur with you, excepting I think marxism has been proven a total failure

lets look at the largest and most recent experiment by Robert Mugabe. This pretty much summarizes both the power of marist dictatorship and dumb people


26 posted on 09/01/2008 5:09:40 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: himno hero

No problem!!!


27 posted on 09/01/2008 5:12:19 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: himno hero

We are definitely on the SAME PAGE!

Sock it to him.


28 posted on 09/01/2008 5:13:31 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: devolve; raybbr

[Yet Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves.]

The cry baby liberals are the ones who won’t admit it, even welcome with open arms the illegals. The incident in Southern California probably isn’t too unusual I think.

Mexico has gang warfare in the streets and beheaded bodies are now being dumped in tourist sites. Our culture along the border has already been changing and hispanics will be the majority not so long from now.

The African culture is even more dire, thankfully they can’t walk across the border, but Obamania is causing a change in our own Black population that is not good.

And then, we have islamic terrorism to fight too.


29 posted on 09/01/2008 5:17:46 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: potlatch

just for your info,

there are still places in africa where they eat people TODAY

where voodoo lives you will probably find the meat dryer of barbeque going.

It seems they like fresh heart (still ticking) the best thats how you capture your enemies mojo which allegedly makes you stronger.
I think the aztecs rituals were similar.


30 posted on 09/01/2008 5:26:06 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: himno hero; devolve

I know that, it isn’t a surprise. And there are forms of voodoo in Mexico and further south. They take tourists to ‘set up’ voodoo ceremonies in Haiti.

AND I know that things in Africa are doubly worse. They never can ‘improve’ themselves in all these years.


31 posted on 09/01/2008 5:32:49 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: Clintonfatigued

Actually, a history of America’s K-12 schools shows that they are of fascist origin, not Marxist.
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You are correct, of course, but Marxism is like an opportunistic infection.


32 posted on 09/01/2008 5:38:26 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Clintonfatigued
it’s an error to say that South Africa was a great place with it.

As bad as it was, I've read reports that blacks from all over Africa were still choosing to move to South Africa to live.

33 posted on 09/01/2008 5:41:13 PM PDT by RJL
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To: potlatch

The cry baby liberals are the ones who won’t admit it, even welcome with open arms the illegals.
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There are enough native born liberal/Marxists to stir the pot. How many of Rev. Wright’s congregation would you estimate to be illegals? How many of the protesters at the Republican Convention are illegals? Probably not many.

However, I do agree that the liberal/Marxists ( who are our most serious threat) are more than willing to open the gates to illegal immigration to further their goals.


34 posted on 09/01/2008 5:45:00 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime; devolve

[There are enough native born liberal/Marxists to stir the pot.]

Of course, and they are the ones inviting more of their kind in.

I just called them liberals, same game.

The blacks of Wrights church are more of a muslim nature and even more frightening.


35 posted on 09/01/2008 5:52:33 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: potlatch

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Regression to a civilization before the Pharaohs with their pants around their knees and blow around their nostrils

The “Sun People” of Louie Louie

And their claim to fame was to build huge crypts as memorials to themselves

Living God ring a bell?

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36 posted on 09/01/2008 5:55:01 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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To: Clintonfatigued
The author would have one believe that racial equality under the law was the country’s downfall. Actually, it’s Marxism that has destroyed the nation.

Actually, I think you missed the author's main point. It wasn't the concept of equality for blacks that she blames, but that the blacks did not have the same respect for Western values that made South Africa successful in the first place. So, when power was given to the ANC, who supposedly represented blacks, they imposed rule of the kind that the rest of Africa is used to - brutal mob rule. This is what she warns against. It is the cultural values that one must pay attention to, and those who do not share ours will use ours to get power, then when in power will dismantle our country, as they did in SA.
37 posted on 09/01/2008 5:59:56 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Bommer

Afrikaners had access to modern automatic weapons without all of the controls we currently have...didn’t seem to help them...


38 posted on 09/01/2008 6:00:08 PM PDT by databoss
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To: devolve
[The “Sun People” of Louie Louie]

Lol, at least you brought some humor into it.
Shoot, they are still finding tribes of unknown people down in the Andes I believe. Who knows what they practice.

Africa just can't get civilized, can't even produce enough food to avoid starvation.

39 posted on 09/01/2008 6:00:41 PM PDT by potlatch ("OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE REMAIN SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER")
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To: potlatch

I just called them liberals, same game.
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It is time to use the words that fits: Communist and Marxist!


40 posted on 09/01/2008 6:16:49 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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