Posted on 08/24/2008 8:10:04 AM PDT by pissant
This is the part where you tell everyone when I said that I want Obama in office. It’s called research, you see, if you take ten seconds to click on my screen name, you will find a link to my conservative blog where I discuss real reasons obama shouldn’t be in the White House.
Say something else stupid.
Well you’re the genius who has apparently appointed yourself arbiter of what is embarrassing to FReepers yet don’t seem smart enough to walk away.
I was a skeptic too at one point. In those days I simply said I wasn’t sure it was an issue and walked away. You’ve apparently chosen this hill for your final battle and that doesn’t show an overabundance of intelligence.
Interesting, I prove my point perfectly, yet you question my intelligence because I want the truth to be told.
This isn’t my final battle by any measure. I have stated more than once that I am only involved in this entire issue because it needs to be put aside so that we can focus on real issues. But it seems that there will always be those who want to continue to entertain the baseless conspiracies. Where are the rest of the “truthers” when you need them?
Simple logic. This issue is baseless, therefore it is a waste of time. There is no real evidence that the certificate is a forgery. Issues that have merit are important, baseless ones are not.
Farrakhan accused the government of blowing up the levees after katrina to kill black people. Did George Bush provide evidence of his innocence? No. He ignored the issue because it was baseless.
The constitution requires birth citizenship to hold the office of President of the USA. It may not be an issue to you but to myself it is and you can tell me to let it go all you want, I’m still going to ask questions.
Don’t twist my words, makes you look like Keith Olberman. The Constitution has nothing to do with this argument until you prove that Obama is not a citizen of the US.
bttt
He has proven this according to the state of Hawaii. You refuse to acknowledge this and you refuse to prove that the state of Hawaii is wrong.
Sure sounds like you have an agenda to me.
He hasn’t proven a thing and yes I have an agenda, to see that the US Constitution is upheld or are you gonna cry about that too?
A certificate of birth from the state of Hawaii is proof. Someone claiming that they looked at a picture of that certificate and can tell that it is fake is not proof to the contrary.
I notice that you and others keep trying to bring the Constitution into play instead of proving that what you say is true. That is called deflection and it doesn’t work with me.
Until you prove the document to be a fake, you cannot claim that you are trying to defend the Constitution.
In this case I have an applicant who claims he presented a legitimate copy of his MBA degree, and his CPA certificate, but he only allowed his employment agent to see them, and only gave me a medium resolution jpeg file by email. I tried calling the college and the CPA accrediting agency to validate the certs but they both say that they can only reply to the certificate holder himself. And he says that for personal reasons he cannot do so, and that because his agent says all is kosher and has provided an image file that sort of looks okay -- that's good enough.To which you replied:
I would recommend seeing a signed and sealed copy of a certificate from the college.So as I understand, that although I contacted the college and they refused to confirm the certification or supply any other details as to the applicants record at the school, and the applicant and his employment agent both refuse to provide the actual stamped copy of his certificate (in a sealed and stamped envelope from the school), I should accept a funky looking jpeg file as perfect credentials?
Do I have that right?
“So as I understand, that although I contacted the college and they refused to confirm the certification or supply any other details as to the applicants record at the school, and the applicant and his employment agent both refuse to provide the actual stamped copy of his certificate (in a sealed and stamped envelope from the school), I should accept a funky looking jpeg file as perfect credentials? Do I have that right?”
No, you do not have it right, because this is not what I said and it is not what has happened in this case. Signed and sealed. Read it please. Hawaii will not give you the original birth certificate, but you can see a signed and sealed copy of the certificate of birth if you do this little thing I like to call “Pay Attention”
Look I really don’t care what you think and myself and others will continue to ask these questions until something comes out that satisfies our need of proof. Till then you may as well stop trying to intimidate and ridicule people into silence.
If you’re that concerned with the embarrassment inflicted on Free Republic you can do one of two things. You can go elsewhere or you can have a talk with Jim Robinson and see if he wants to silence us for you.
I intimidate you? That is a little sad seeing as how I am nothing more than a screenname to you. A certificate of birth is proof until someone proves otherwise. And I haven’t ridiculed anyone, although I have been called a few names in here so far by a few mental midgets who have to resort to name calling when they can’t prove what they say is true.
And I am concerned with the embarrassment of everyone on the right who is trying to make sure Obama doesn’t make it to the White House. I have this thing called integrity and I really wish more people on the right could make the same claim.
If you don't believe me check it for yourself by clicking this link.
one would suppose that such a amended certification of live birth would look similar to the forgery Obama has been saying is his birth cetificate.
Why is it that in his books he describes having it before 2007 and yet he can only show this latest version?
Your standards are really low, by the way. For example an applicant for a position with any school district has to be vetted more surely than Mr. Obama for President, because they are required to provide sealed college transcripts (in unopened, sealed and stamped envelopes) and verifiable copies of birth certificates, in addition to criminal background checks and fingerprinting.
Um, if you are going to post a link, make certain it actually proves your point. That link is discussing a different document than the one factcheck held and photographed.
If you would like to see what an amended birth certificate is used for, check it out http://glossary.adoption.com/amended-birth-certificate.html
That took me like 10 seconds.
My standards are based on facts, not rumors from the blogs I read. Obama has a verifiable certificate from Hawaii. Prove otherwise.
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