Posted on 11/03/2007 6:59:32 AM PDT by BnBlFlag
Interesting story, thanks.
For an example of a “Good Yankee”, see my post #200!
did the Judge Advocate General of the US Army LIE???
or could it be that the DAMNyankee radical, LEFTIST, revisionists are the LIARS and that they LIED out of inbred HATRED of both the southland & the TRUTH??? (YEP. that's the CORRECT answer.)
laughing AT you, BIGOT.
free dixie,sw
i suspect that, given your constant "looking about" for information that you KNOW this.
laughing AT you, LIAR. (btw, WHO did you SAY you "used to be" before you are PERMANENTLY BANNED from FR??? provide PROOF as you will NOT be believed otherwise,m LIAR.)
free dixie,sw
that would be the TRUTH, in your case.
free dixie,sw
Wow, that was kind of cathartic.
Now, what documented facts are you talking about? I find plenty of documentation that talks about Father F.E. Boyle being on the gallows with Wirz and later writing a letter to Jefferson Davis about it. I don't suppose you have any documentation that you can actually present to the contrary, do you?
did the Judge Advocate General of the US Army LIE???
I don't know what he said, only what you claim he said. Did Father Boyle lie? Does Jefferson Davis lie about Boyle being there in his "Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government" (pages 498-500)? Did Louis Schade, Wirz's lawyer, lie when he talked about Father Boyle? What about US (and Confederate) Senator Benjamin H. Hill? Did he lie in his memoir when he talks about the execution of Wirz and the presence of Boyle?
1.President Davis was NOT present (thus his writing is hearsay),
2. i have NO idea WHO "Father Boyle" was (nor even if there was ever such a person), nor do i know that he was present OR for that matter WHAT his motives might have been &
3. the Chief of Custody (a serving MAJ of the US Army) was PRESENT & i see no reason that the MAJ had to lie about "denial of suitable clergy". (it certainly was NOT in his "informed self-interest", as a serving military officer, to lie.)
i have only your word on what you say is factual & everyone here KNOWS that you are a SERIAL LIAR & a south-HATER, thus absent independent PROOF, i can't say that i believe ANY of your post.
"bubba",your reputation is that of a BIGOT, a FOOL & a south-HATER & is RUINED forever on FR.
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
persons dropped though a gallows trap suffer by broken neck and/or "cervical dislocation". they do NOT strangle to death.
those eye witnesses said that the assembled crowd "hooted & applauded wildly at his continuing struggles to breathe".
free dixie,sw
But Davis reprints, in its entirety, the letter that he received from Father Boyle. Are you saying that Davis was duped? What about Lewis Schade, Wirz's lawyer? He was present at the hanging and wrote a letter to the American public about it, and Father Boyle, that was reprinted on an SCV camp website. Is Schade lying? Is the SCV camp that reprinted the letter a bunch of liars, or just dupes?
have only your word on what you say is factual & everyone here KNOWS that you are a SERIAL LIAR & a south-HATER, thus absent independent PROOF, i can't say that i believe ANY of your post.
Davis's book is available in its entirely online here. The letter that he received from Father Boyle begins on page 499.
Here's another source, from csa-dixie.com, reprinting an article from the Southern Society Historical Papers, March, 1876 issue, that mentions Father Boyle.
How about this article August, 1900 edition of "The Southern Veteran" that mentions Boyle?
You plainly haven't got your southern partisan research down here. The usual southron take on the Wirz execution is to parade the claim that Wirz was approached, on the eve of his execution, with an offer that he'd be spared if he gave evidence implicating Davis, which Wirz refused. Boyle, along with Schade, is one of the witnesses to this offer, hence Davis's reprinting of the letter. Eliminate Boyle, and you lose the offer.
No problem padner! I see Guidos!
Sometimes the drop is miscalculated. Sometimes it's too short and they strangle. Sometimes it's too long and their head comes off, as happened in hanging of one of Saddam's men back in January. Hanging didn't become a real science until the British perfected it in the early 1900s and published "Official Government Table of Drops" in 1913.
Now, how do you explain the photos that show Wirz standing on top of a gallows, then hanging through the trap door?
and NOPE, i'm NOT an "expert", just a person who has read all the original data that i have at my disposal, as well as COL Wirtz's book.
fyi, COL Heinrich Wirtz is a personal friend of mine & i have (on occasions when he was in the USA) brought him to FReeps in DC.
frankly,you're wasting your time trying to convince anyone here that you are correct. we just don't believe ANYTHING you post, LIAR.
free dixie,sw
Really? Because you regularly accuse serving military offficers of lying, as when you claim that the men of Ft. Sumter were gorging themselves on chocolate and other delicacies while their officers were writing to Washington claiming that they were close to being starved out.
Right. So then you believe that Jefferson Davis was either a liar or a fool, duped by a fake letter. You believe that two different confederate veteran publications from over 100 years ago were liars or dupes.
fyi, COL Heinrich Wirtz is a personal friend of mine & i have (on occasions when he was in the USA) brought him to FReeps in DC.
Yeah, right.
also, the US Army's PM troops have had PLENTY of practice hanging criminals since 1776. (there used to be GIs hanged for theft in the 19th Century)
there was NO mistake. the evidence is that CPT Wirz was strangled ON PURPOSE.
free dixie,sw
KNOWING that to be true (if i were UNfortunate enough to be you), i would "slink back under my rock" & HOPE that FReepers would eventually forget (they won't.) that i was CAUGHT numerous times telling KNOWING, intentional, CLUMSY, stupid, LIES, as you are.
HONOR/truth/decency is evidently "a stranger" to you, but PLEASE continue to post your HATE-filled nonsense, as you damage the unionists with every STUPID lie you tell.
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
"TRUTHFULNESS among DAMNyankees is as common as VIRTUE is among patrons of bawdy-houses".
fwiw, she has "your number". laughing AT you, LIAR!!!
free dixie,sw
Because they're repeatedly identified as such an a large number of sources. If you know how, do a Google images search on "wirz" and "hanging." Here' the link to civilwarphotos.net's page which includes links to three photos of the hanging.
Here's a picture from the Library of Congress with a photo of the same hanging "
The caption reads:
So now, let's see...you've got Father Boyle a liar, Wirz's lawyer a liar, Jefferson Davis a fool for believing them, and the Library of Congress just wrong about the identifcation of a photo in their collection, several SCV chapters, a confederate veterans magazine and I don't know how many other sources that talk about Father Boyle being with Wirz in his cell and on the gallows also complete fools for believing this.Reading the death warrant to Wirz on the scaffold in Washington, D.C.
CREDIT: "Washington, D.C. Reading the Death Warrant to Wirz on the Scaffold." November 10, 1865. Selected Civil War Photographs, 1861-1865, Library of Congress.
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