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MEXICANS ARE GOOD PEOPLE
Catholic Messages USA ^ | June. '07 | Vincent Bemowski

Posted on 06/04/2007 1:44:00 AM PDT by servant675

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To: highlander_UW
That's a rather prejudiced, blanket statement

Exactly. I can't believe people still make ignorant sweeping generalizations like this. Does the writer know every Mexican? What an idiotic thing to say.

141 posted on 06/04/2007 8:21:20 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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To: mgist
If that were you, some of these posters were talking about, you would also find it creepy and think very poorly of the integrity of some of these posters...

I'm throwing the BS flag on your entire post. If you want increased immigration, make the case.

Most conservatives are past being guilted, because we've been guilted by experts...the left...for many years. Those who oppose W's plan have many honest and reasonable concerns. Address those, instead of questioning their motives.

For anyone with half a brain, the "venom and hostility" should be easy to understand...it's well stated in the title of another thread...Su Casa es Mi Casa. You're getting the reception you've earned. Stop whining about it.

As a side note...isn't it interesting how the left's revulsion regarding the mixing of politics and religion is limited to...say...those on the right like Jerry Falwell?

142 posted on 06/04/2007 8:21:20 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops without actually being helpful to them.)
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To: Politicalmom
Yea..I imagine most first generation immigrants sent money back to the “homeland” for a while. Wouldn't you if you had starving cousins that have to work like a pig to eat scraps?
143 posted on 06/04/2007 8:22:03 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: NinoFan
but why doesn’t this catholic site spend some time encouraging Mexicans to fight for change in Mexico?

I think it's all about gov't dollars. At any rate, it sure isn't about following the bible, or they wouldn't be encouraging criminals to steal from us.

144 posted on 06/04/2007 8:22:45 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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To: Politicalmom

There won’t be a fence without one, so you want the border to stay open? I don’t follow your logic.


145 posted on 06/04/2007 8:25:23 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Wolfie
Not according to John McCain:

LOL. Good one!

146 posted on 06/04/2007 8:27:11 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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To: Earthdweller

I want ENFORCEMENT. NOTHING else!! At least for now.

Severely fine employers of illegals, yank ALL public benefits, and close the borders. Make it VERY unpleasant and they will go HOME.


147 posted on 06/04/2007 8:31:27 AM PDT by Politicalmom ("Secure the border first. This is our house and we get to decide who gets to come here"- FDT)
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To: Earthdweller
A S S I M I L A T I O N
148 posted on 06/04/2007 8:31:42 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: servant675

How silly to justify the deterioration of our communities just so a few million dirt-poor people can come in and move up from a donkey and a cobbled-together two-wheeled cart only to park their Bondo-bargain Hooptys in the front yards next door to Ma and Pa Kettle right when they are settling back in their retirement rockers on the front porch.


149 posted on 06/04/2007 8:32:10 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: servant675
It is very important to remember that unlike Black Americans, bigotry against Mexican Americans is still not being fully addressed.

I don't give a damn what color you are as long as you are here legally. If not GTFO.

Muslims are the only group I cannot deal with b/c of their bloodthirsty gutter religion.

150 posted on 06/04/2007 8:39:40 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: servant675
is very important to remember that unlike Black Americans, bigotry against Mexican Americans is still not being fully addressed.

Why drag the Black man into this? If you must, how about address the fact that Blacks are being affected by the job stealing illegals. There, I said it - job stealing illegals. That was very freeing. Some of these writers should try it.

151 posted on 06/04/2007 8:48:40 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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To: NapkinUser

GOOD CATCH!!


152 posted on 06/04/2007 8:51:12 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: servant675

Mexicans may be overly great but their history of establishing and running a representaionally governed nation is rather spotty.

Why should we want that culture imported here en masse and illegally.

It defies reason.

This is a consequence of political correctness and white guilt.

The WWII generation would never have allowed such follow and for sure not out of guilt.


153 posted on 06/04/2007 8:51:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: Earthdweller

Since this thread is about Mexican Nationals I will choose to address the Mexican side, however I will say that not all illegals are mexicans, just many are.

Okay, so you think that the reason people came over here from mexico and Ireland during the potato famine are the same. Please explain why large groups of these people gather in massive groups revolt and bear no loyalty to the US, those that do only give it as a token one. The Irish when the Civil War began VOLUNTEERED by the millions into the union army, many were cut down by fire from their fellow americans but in the end they all fought for eachother. These Mexican Nationals are not here to fight for america, they are here for themselves and themselves only. Illegals that join the armed forces are given amnesty that’s the only time it’s acceptable. In my opinion if an illegal is not willing to fight for the preservation of the Consitution and the Republic which it protects, then they are just Bravo Sierraing.

My analysis differs simply because Mexico is not poor it’s a simple fact that there is a very cruel and well entrenched aristocracy within Mexico. This is Mexico’s fault not our own, this must be FIXED by Mexico, not by sending Mexico money to be pocketed. Unless you are a member of the Mexican Elite you can’t get ahead, this is wrong but guess what that’s the job of Mexico to fix.

Sending money back to Mexico to be taxed by to aristocracy is not going to help the overall situtation. All your doing is importing the problem. There is no famine in Mexico, just a government that needs to be overthrown and a population being shipped out to delay it.


154 posted on 06/04/2007 8:51:52 AM PDT by Otaku6
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To: servant675

Wow. More than 150 responses to you, and you have yet to answer a single one.


155 posted on 06/04/2007 8:54:14 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: Politicalmom
Everyone is getting around the laws we have now. Not so much because the goberment wants them to but just because they will find a way around any law that prohibits them from lapping up the money....and we are not talking about just Mexicans or some Ivory tower CEOs...it’s everyone on the borders including Americans who are making mega bucks off these people. We can’t arrest the whole state of Arizona or New Mexico or Texas. If you try to put up a fence without making a deal with them they will sabotage it.
156 posted on 06/04/2007 8:58:46 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: doug from upland
Yes...I’m getting tired of pressing 1 to get English and I hate all the paper we waste making two sided instructions for every product I buy. Assimilation can not happen too fast for me.
157 posted on 06/04/2007 9:00:48 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Otaku6
"These Mexican Nationals are not here to fight for america, they are here for themselves and themselves only."

And that's the way it will be unless we close the borders. The Irish were not about to hop on a death ship and run back home.

158 posted on 06/04/2007 9:05:12 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

Okay, then we probably substantially agree. But, come on, there really is not a fair comparison to others who have come to America and become Americans. This wave is going to stay loyal to Mexico, even voting in both countries. It really is different.


159 posted on 06/04/2007 9:24:01 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
Okay, then we probably substantially agree. But, come on, there really is not a fair comparison to others who have come to America and become Americans. This wave is going to stay loyal to Mexico, even voting in both countries. It really is different.

Nicely put.

160 posted on 06/04/2007 9:26:50 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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