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World Terrorism: News, History and Research Of A Changing World #6 Disinformation, Inc.
Global Politician/Ocnus.Net ^ | Dec 17, 2006 | Professor Daniel M. Zucker

Posted on 12/17/2006 4:03:30 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT

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To: struwwelpeter

Killing for a word is an ancient Russian tradition. On the one hand, it speaks volumes about the power of the word, while on the other hand, everyone know that it shouldn't be like this
<<<

So very true.

This is getting to be in the same class as the Linvinenko murder, nothing makes sense.

Why are they so afraid of the reporters?

Unless they, the top people are hiding something.



121 posted on 12/18/2006 4:54:53 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
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To: Founding Father

Where are the Americans being trained?

Maybe in Venezuela?

I heard that there are going to be sending back 10,000 trained jihadi to Europe in the next 3 years.


122 posted on 12/18/2006 4:57:14 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
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To: Founding Father

Did you see #111 above?

Says they are searching for nuclear in Albania, could it be related to this murder?

I think someone will be convicted for the Linvinenko murder, but doubt if I will ever be convinced that they are guilty.

Too many twists and turns, for the truth to come out.

In my opinion.


123 posted on 12/18/2006 5:03:41 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
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To: struwwelpeter

A nice group of brave reporters.

I would think that this was one march, that a wise person would have stayed away from.

It is amazing at the numbers of reporters who are killed.

Several times, I have been to the world reporters website and the numbers are always a surprise.

In the past, the mafia here in the U.S. has killed a few reporters, that were digging too deep.

Odd they could not have a permit for the march, but the Youths who support Putin, turned out a few days ago, numbered in the thousands.


124 posted on 12/18/2006 5:12:27 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Why are they so afraid of the reporters?

Unless they, the top people are hiding something.


I think Lubov Burban put it best: How awful must be the truth, how dangerous it must be for those who have something to hide, if they can only hide from it with the help of a bullet?

From the journalist rally:

"The price of free speech is 250 dead"
125 posted on 12/18/2006 5:15:40 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: Founding Father; FARS

Khatami dismissed suggestions that the Middle East is entering a period of sectarian wars between Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims. He claimed that the real issue was the choice between revolutionary Islam, represented by Iran, and "an Islam of defeat and compromise" represented by all other governments in the Muslim world. (Allah Is The Greatest). <<<

Interesting, someone is admitting that there is trouble in the middle east and that the good guys, may have to develop a backbone.

Will the election held yesterday have any effect on this?

Ping to Fars to your post #118


126 posted on 12/18/2006 5:17:26 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
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To: struwwelpeter

Do you think that Anna ever guessed, what she means to those who want the truth?

Anna has become a martyr.

I am glad they give her honor, she deserves it, for having been killed as she was.


127 posted on 12/18/2006 5:19:46 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
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To: struwwelpeter

"The price of free speech is 250 dead"<<<

When you add to the 250, those who are killed in the rest of the world, you have as many dead reporters, as we have dead G.I.'s in Iraq.

Yet, you rarely hear of a protest against the dead reporters.

I could not open the extra link to the march photos above, will try again later.

Thank you for sharing these reports, we would not know, if you did not post them. and translate them to boot.


128 posted on 12/18/2006 5:24:20 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
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To: All; milford421

Gun at School:

http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?fr=yalerts-keyword&c=&p=gun+at+school&ei=utf-8

1. JANITOR FACING SCHOOL GUN CHARGE Open this result in new window
Cambridge Evening News - Dec 18 7:12 AM
A SCHOOL caretaker has been suspended after being charged with brandishing a gun.
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2. Teen Charged With Bringing Gun To School Open this result in new window
The WBAL Channel - Dec 18 12:27 PM
BALTIMORE -- A student at a Northeast Baltimore high school was arrested Monday afternoon after school police said they found him in possession of a .32-caliber handgun.
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3. Student suspended for carrying pellet gun Open this result in new window
Palo Alto Weekly - 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
A Woodside High School student has been suspended and is in Hillcrest Juvenile Facility in Belmont after an unloaded pellet gun that resembled a 9-mm semi-automatic handgun was found in his backpack Dec. 6.
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4. Reed faces gun possession charges; Preliminary examinations waived in insurance fraud case Open this result in new window
The Daily Reporter - Dec 18 5:48 AM
COLDWATER — Former Pansophia Academy student, Jamie Lee Reed, 17, will face charges of possession of a gun at the school. Branch County District Court Judge David Coyle arraigned Reed on charges he had a .45-caliber silver pistol in a weapon-free school zone, a four-year felony.
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5. Student Brings Gun To School Open this result in new window
Fox21 - Dec 15 10:31 PM
A teenage girl in Spartanburg is being accused of carrying a gun to school. It happened at Carver Junior High off Church Street. School administrators put the school on lock down and tell us they found no other weapons.
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6. Student who turned in gun deserves fair treatment Open this result in new window
Chicago Sun-Times - Dec 17 3:25 AM
Although it appears that an eighth-grade student did the right thing when he handed over a pellet gun he found at school, school officials don't see it that way.
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7. Police say gun at Pacific school `isolated incident' Open this result in new window
Inside Bay Area - Dec 15 5:28 PM
Two brothers who were arrested Thursday for bringing a loaded gun onto the grounds of their Pacifica high school were not thought to be retaliating for an earlier incident this week, police said.
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8. PACIFICA / 2 students arrested when school finds gun Open this result in new window
San Francisco Chronicle - Dec 15 4:04 AM
Two Oceana High School students were arrested Thursday in Pacifica after school staffers found a loaded gun in the backpack of one of them. According to the Pacifica Police Department, both students, residents of San Francisco, were charged with...
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9. Suburb wrestles with weapons in schools Open this result in new window
Chicago Tribune - Dec 18 11:18 AM
The mother of a teenage boy kicked out of a Plainfield middle school after turning in a pellet gun he found called today for her child to be returned to classes, while school officials in the southwest suburb may consider expelling a kindergartner allegedly found with a penknife.
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10. Boy out of school after finding gun, giving it to staff Open this result in new window
The Naperville Sun - Dec 15 2:27 AM
JOLIET -- A Troy Middle School student will be home-schooled instead of being expelled for gun possession.
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129 posted on 12/18/2006 5:32:17 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
After you so lavishly praised Masha's stories, I wanted to show you what real courage looks like.

Funtikova is a pleasant read, but her "orphans need toys at Christmastime" stories probably won't land her in the hot water the above reporters are risking.
130 posted on 12/18/2006 5:40:12 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: All; FARS; Founding Father


Iran and the Obstructing Third
Ghassan Charbel Al-Hayat - 13/12/06//

http://english.daralhayat.com/opinion/OPED/12-2006/Article-20061213-7c07848f-c0a8-10ed-01e6-a3b9c1d1fa32/story.html

The Lebanese opposition adheres to its demand of obtaining the obstructing third of the cabinet, which it calls the "securing third'. Grabbing one third of the cabinet is tantamount to hold the power to prevent the government from convening, if it wanted. It would also entail the impossibility of taking any decision on any important matter without its consent. Under the Constitution, the government is considered illegitimate if one third of its members resign, which means that the one-third opposition is capable of thwarting the government once it finds it is in its interest.

Let us put Lebanon aside. What impedes solving some of the current regional crises is that Iran holds the obstructing third, namely, the demand that the US recognize its right to obtain this third. Some simple questions are sufficient to clarify this issue: can security and stability be achieved in Iraq without the approval of Iran? Can a government be installed in Mesopotamia without giving Tehran the obstructing third, if it is satisfied with such a quota? Can a US withdrawal from Iraq be arranged under reasonable or semi-reasonable conditions without the help of Iran, which has already offered assistance if Washington decides to withdraw? No Arab will ever rejoice either at seeing Iran holding such a large number of trump cards in the Iraqi scene or at Iraq becoming an arena like Lebanon.

Let us put Iraq aside. Can we see a Palestinian national unity government being formed without the approval of Iran? Can we settle a deal to release the Israeli soldier, Gilad Shalit, without addressing the Iranian obstructing third? Is it possible to arrange a sustained ceasefire against Iran's calculations, which can be characterized by ostensible flexibility or excessive intransigence, depending on the ongoing bickering and negotiation in the region? Embattled Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas should wait for the return of the envoy from Damascus and Tehran whenever he requests anything from his prime minister.

Whoever looks forward to possessing the obstructing third in the region should have a very important trump card in the conflict with Israel. A few days ago, Imam Khomeini made 'Jerusalem Day' an Iranian tradition. The relationship with Hezbollah allowed Iran to have a permanent presence on the borders of occupied Palestine. Launching Iranian-made missiles on northern Israel last summer came within the context of asserting the ability to use the power of this one third to threaten the security of Israel. Through the Iraqi file, southern Lebanon, the alliance with Syria and the camps of Gaza, Iran reminds the US of its ability to act as an obstacle, having proved its ability to cooperate in Afghanistan.

Through the attitudes, statements and practices, as well as uranium enrichment, Iran is trying to stage itself as the only power in the region by employing what it believes is its ability to hold the obstructing third in the security of oil, the region and Israel.

This means that it presents itself as a rival, or a partner, to the US presence in the region. Some believe that Iran goes beyond this dream by betting on filling a relatively larger part of the vacuum left by the Soviet Union in the region after its collapse and disintegration.

Iran's attempt to seize the obstructing third in the countries, files and the entire region is not a simple issue, as it affects other countries' security, interests and sensitivities, and disrupt the balance of the structure of the region.

It would not be to the Arabs' advantage to show enmity toward Iran, or to pay the price of either a confrontation or agreement between Tehran and Washington. The battle of the Iranian obstructing third is still in its early stages. Following up on its developments helps one understand the open hotbeds of tension in the region.


131 posted on 12/18/2006 5:42:54 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
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To: struwwelpeter

Funtikova is a pleasant read, but her "orphans need toys at Christmastime" stories probably won't land her in the hot water the above reporters are risking<<<

You may be right, but look at the fact she is exposing the Russian Gov., as not taking care of the kids and that they children so often need help from outside and strangers, to get the medical care they need.

I would think that would put her under the spotlight.

True, not in the same class as Anna, but if she becomes known and is read in America, cannot that be a danger.

OK, so I am in full "Duck and take cover " mode.

a small smile.....too cold for a big one.


132 posted on 12/18/2006 5:47:12 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All; RaceBannon; Pan_Yans Wife; freedom44; jmc1969; FreeReign; odds; Cronos; ...

CHINA TO DUMP A TRILLION DOLLARS which will crash our currencyandthen all currencies.

As Alan Peters has been warning on his site throug several articles, mostly focused on Iran, which suddenly becomes a small player instead of the critical spoiler, a move like this one by China will sink everyone.

When I tried to post this "breaking news" on FR, I received a quick message that FR does not like the Hal Turner Show and will not post anything with him as source.

As a relative newbie, I have no problem with being given guidance by FR and even warned Alan to put a disclainer on his post. Which he did.

At the same time, if this is true then we have a major, major disaster buildling on our hands - and little or nothing we can do about it.

That Iran is also following China's lead becomes almost irrelevant by comparison but was a good tail for the story.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2006/12/china-to-dump-one-trillion-dollars-in.html

This should be spread to other threads.


133 posted on 12/18/2006 6:03:34 PM PST by FARS
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To: FARS

...."major disaster building"...........

I agree.........and thanks for the info.


134 posted on 12/18/2006 6:07:15 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: FARS

If China dumps a trillion dollars, then they will take the hit more than us.


On the other hand, I don't think they have a trillion dollars to dump anyway.


135 posted on 12/18/2006 6:08:05 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

bump


136 posted on 12/18/2006 6:48:24 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
The linvinenko story gets deeper with every report.


granny this should break the who-ever-has-nukes out of the water. This has to be the best leads our people have ever had.

Dmitry Kovtun HAD to be walking around with this stuff, I just don't understand why he didn't die first.
137 posted on 12/18/2006 7:13:34 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Anytime GOD is taken away, you are left with an anti-christ, home, school, church etc.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I wonder if this is our same guy Dmitry Kovtun, check out website of company....
http://www.vfbs.ru/team.htm

Managing Partner, is responsible for business development, company strategy and marketing. Prior to joining VFBS Dmitry worked at Gazprom and the Alfa Group. Dmitry graduated from Moscow State University of International Relations (MGIMO), International Business Administration, and has a Master of Law Degree. Dmitry speaks both Russian and English.


138 posted on 12/18/2006 7:20:57 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Anytime GOD is taken away, you are left with an anti-christ, home, school, church etc.)
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To: All

Russian Law Enforcers Prevent 450 Terror Attacks in 2005 — Interior Minister
Created: 17.02.2006 16:28 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 16:28 MSK


MosNews


A total of 450 terrorist attacks were prevented in Russia last year, Interior Minister Rashid Nurgaliyev said at an expanded session of the ministry’s board in Moscow on Friday.

“Search operations helped prevent 450 terrorist attacks [on Russian territory], of them 290 in the Chechen republic,” the Interfax news agency quoted the minister as sayingsaid.

The number of terrorist attacks committed in the country declined by 25% last year, the minister said. Investigations into more than 60% of terrorist attacks were successful, he said.

http://mosnews.com/news/2006/02/17/nurgaliev.shtml


139 posted on 12/18/2006 7:30:24 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Anytime GOD is taken away, you are left with an anti-christ, home, school, church etc.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny


What a story...

The terrorist you've never heard of
Unlike alleged al-Qaida terrorist Jose Padilla, right-wing "dirty bomber" Demetrius Crocker was investigated and prosecuted the old-fashioned constitutional way.

By Alex Koppelman
Dec. 18, 2006 | In a Miami courtroom on Monday morning, defense lawyers for Jose Padilla, the American citizen accused of conspiring with al-Qaida, will argue what could be a landmark motion. Padilla's defense attorneys are asking the presiding judge to dismiss the case on the grounds of "outrageous government conduct." The abuse Padilla has endured while in custody, they contend, has so scarred him that he can no longer even discuss the case against him. They believe he has been rendered incompetent to stand trial.

The logic of the federal government's response to the defense motion was stunningly cold. The U.S. Attorney's office agrees that Padilla needs his competency evaluated. We didn't torture him, argue the representatives of the U.S. government, but if we did, and it made him crazy -- well, then, no claims he makes about said torture can be trusted. He is, after all, mentally incompetent.

Jonathan Turley, a professor of law at George Washington University who specializes in constitutional criminal procedure, calls this argument "bizarre."

"It would create a rather perverse incentive," marvels Turley. "As long as the government can force someone into mental incompetency they cannot face a motion for incompetency in court."

"It would seem," concludes Turley, with great understatement, "to invite abuse."

This shockingly cynical new tack is just the latest in the saga of moral and legal breakdown that is the Padilla case. On Dec. 4, the New York Times published graphic evidence to substantiate Padilla's claims of mistreatment. The paper ran old photos of Padilla while he was in Department of Defense custody wearing dark goggles, earmuffs and shackles, being led from his one-man cell to a dental appointment for a root canal. Padilla spent 1,307 days at the Naval Consolidated Brig in Charleston, S.C., where, his lawyers allege, he was kept in solitary, deprived of sleep, drugged with PCP or LSD, held in stress positions, and blindfolded, shackled and deafened on the few occasions he was allowed out of his 9-by-7-foot cell.

The Bush administration has defended its handling of Jose Padilla and other alleged terrorists in federal custody by arguing that the post-9/11 "war on terror" requires extraordinary methods. But while the Department of Justice has been tying itself in knots trying to justify the government's handling of Padilla, the nearly simultaneous -- and successful -- prosecution of another supposed "dirty bomber" in Tennessee stands as proof that the measures taken in the Padilla case are at best counterproductive. Without fanfare, and without any damage to the Constitution, 41-year-old Demetrius Crocker has been convicted of plotting to explode a bomb and release sarin gas outside a courthouse.

On Nov. 28 -- six days before the Times ran its photos of Padilla -- Demetrius "Van" Crocker was sentenced to 30 years in prison. David Kustoff, the United States Attorney for the Western District of Tennessee, where Crocker was prosecuted, tells Salon that "It was one of the preeminent anti-terrorism cases of 2006 nationwide." Whether or not that is true, few outside of the greater Memphis metropolitan area have ever heard of Crocker. Only one reporter, John Branston of the weekly Memphis Flyer, even covered his entire trial. What is certain is that in every particular his case is a study in contrasts with the prosecution of Jose Padilla.

According to court documents, the investigation of Demetrius Crocker began in early 2004, around the time he told a man named Lynn Adams that Timothy McVeigh "[did] things right." Adams, who had met the Mississippi-born farmhand through a mutual acquaintance, began to hear from Crocker about his plans for mass murder. A resident of rural Carroll County, Tenn., an hour northeast of Memphis, Crocker told Adams he wanted to kill the black population of nearby Jackson, Tenn., with mustard gas and explode a bomb outside a courthouse.

By then, Adams had learned a lot about Crocker's background: his previous membership in the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement, his anti-government beliefs, his fascination with Adolf Hitler and idolization of Oklahoma City bomber McVeigh. "Fuck them. Let God sort them out," Crocker said when Adams asked if he was worried about killing innocent women and children.

Crocker, meanwhile, hadn't learned nearly as much about Adams. He didn't know, for example, that Adams was a former sheriff's deputy and a confidential informant for the Carroll County drug task force. At first, Adams didn't take Crocker seriously, but as their relationship progressed, Adams began believing Crocker was more than just talk.

At that point, the Carroll County Sheriff's Department passed the case on to the FBI. Steve Burroughs, an FBI agent, began working undercover. Posing as an employee at the Pine Bluff Arsenal in Arkansas, where some of the country's remaining chemical weapons are stored to await destruction, Burroughs offered to help Crocker obtain explosive materials. Without Burroughs' prompting, Crocker became more ambitious. He began talking about blowing up a radioactive bomb outside the U.S. Capitol.

There was an element of the fantastic in Crocker's plan; he hoped, he told Burroughs, to obtain the necessary plutonium for the dirty bomb he wanted to explode outside Congress by communicating with mail-order brides from Russia, one of whom would presumably put him in touch with a former KGB agent with access to nuclear material. His lawyers claimed he had an IQ of just 85.

But tapes of the conversations between Crocker and Burroughs reveal that Crocker knew what he was doing. He had made a version of Zyklon B, the gas used in the gas chambers in Nazi concentration camps, and he accurately described its manufacture. He had made nitroglycerin. He had the ingredients for a rudimentary bomb in his home, where he also kept several guns he told Burroughs he would use to kill any government agent sent to capture him.

Burroughs gave Crocker several opportunities to back out of the plan the two worked on together, but each time Crocker chose to press on. And had the materials Burroughs handed Crocker on the day the FBI finally arrested him been real, Crocker would have known what to do with them. With the fake C4 explosive and fake precursor to sarin gas Burroughs provided, it would have been a simple matter for Crocker to make the deadly nerve agent and release it outside a government building.

The U.S. Attorney's office repeatedly described Crocker as the McVeigh of West Tennessee. "He was Timothy McVeigh," said Kustoff after Crocker's conviction, "and every bit as scary." The jury deliberated just 45 minutes. On April 13, they found Crocker guilty of all five charges filed against him.

Next page: "The FBI agent was careful to make sure the plan was real and not a creation of the government"

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/12/18/tennessee_terrorist/index.html


140 posted on 12/18/2006 7:54:15 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Anytime GOD is taken away, you are left with an anti-christ, home, school, church etc.)
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