Posted on 11/17/2006 3:28:19 PM PST by catholicfreeper
Anyway, THe Anchoress blog has some thoughts on this too http://theanchoressonline.com/2006/11/17/defining-the-bush-conservative/#comments
I concur with most all the points. The Fast Ball the President threw on Harriet Miers was way too fast for some minds to grapple with, IMHO. It threw their game off.
Yeah, I guess the I am getting tired of all the bickering. It just seems that so many factions(that are all legitimate parts of Replucians and conservatives) are going at each other too much. I am convinced each of them in their minds thinks they are the true base. It seems we were fighting each other way too long and forgot we had a generl elections
Hopefully we realize next election that after the primaries we come together
One more thing -- Phil Graham's sound counsel regarding "sitting in the wagon" and those who work to "pull the wagon". Certainly this was in reference to economics and micro-econ; but it also applies in the personal -- those who looked for the Republican party to "rescue" them from problems. Demanded it. Me, me, and mine. And when Repubs made clear they were being thoroughly abused through filibusters and the MSM slanted reporting -- plenty of "faux conservatives" went on the attack of the Republicans -- "Failures, they've failed me personally, WAAAH!"; "I wanted Superman, and all you gave me was a mere mortal!" WAAAH!"
Yes, and with you I agree, this election cycle was most instructive, and I do believe, productive.
McPainintheass is that you? This is such B.S. I don't know where to start!! First of all, these precious RINO prix GO14 are nothing but moderate game playing, middle of the road, squishy, status quo, good ole boy, SFB agitators! There's NOTHING the GO14 did to get conservatives on the court. Instead we didn't go do what should have been done, nuke the living crap out the dems!!
Conservatives have a base, and if Repubs do not want to fight for the base then they can go pissoff!! I'm so sick and tired of hearing nothing but shinola from supposed conservative repubs only to find out when they get to congress they won't stand steadfast and fight, or they get star-struck by the DBM. Bush is nothing more than a moderate, big spending, illegal immigration politico, who only understands moderation as a means to an end. Even in the WOT he can't charge in for the kill.
Newt Gingrinch came up with the "Contract With America" Almost everyone of those issue are now out the window for repubs because repubs let them die. Well fine repubs if you won't stand up for conservatives principles we won't hire you anymore to represent us, because politically you want to "get along" with B.S. policies!!
The article is ripe with moderated whimpness thats ideas will never solve anything. Show us something REAL! "Bush Conservatism," NO THANK YOU!!
Gee, do you discuss your wife's habit of burping in front of her, or behind her back?
You might consider joining your local conservative and/or Republican party, voicing your criticisms THERE, where the ideas might be more properly, purposefully, and constructively considered.
...just kidding. I thought this was a thoughtful piece, and valid on many points. I believe that the old Reagan coalition has come unglued, with disparate wings of conservativism at each others' throats. Conservatism has become increasingly negative, and has become identified with what it is AGAINST rather than what it is for. Reagan's inherent positive message is now missing from much of conservatism, and I don't think we can assert a conservative majority in America until we have a renewed vision and message, and a new messenger who embodies that vision and message.
THe Gang of 14 was not on the average persons mind in the election booth. I mean did the average COnservative have that as a big issue. Thats so inside baseball no one cared.
I think people that are involved in politcs need to learn something. THe average American views politcs at noise. They dont want to really be bothered with it. THey ahave a couple of issues and besides that they want the trains to run on time.
IN the end Conservatives got on the COurt. It seemed to work quite well for getting Altio and Roberts on the COurt. Took the wind out of the Dems sails. IN the end the result mattered not having a fight with the Dems. In the end people dont want that.
That being said there is nothing moderate about this. Its about conservatives recognizing we are a party of business, social conservative, limited Govt folks, fiscial hawks, Religious oriented voters, and Libertarians. We all need each other to win. Thats what this is about.
What are you talking about? I don't want to censor anyone's opinion, but I sure as anything will point out how WRONG moderates thinking can be...Stop being scared of "OPINIONS" and fighting for what you believe, America is all about the idea of being able to voice opinions. If you ask me "getting along" just to get along is nothing more than pure B.S. and deserves to be treated as such! I'm not standing up anymore for moderate prix who care nothing about conservatism and good ideals just to give them up "To get along"
Let the purge begin, there's not been a better time!
I didn't bother reading through all this crap.
By your first few definitions, I am certainly NOT a "Bush conservative."
Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya!
Yeah you hit it right on. I was saying earlier this year the fact that got more emails and direct mail about who was a rino and who was not way into Septemeber concerned me.
Its like we forgot that the Democrats existed. I really thinked that is what happened. The voter sensed we didnt have it together and voted in part because of that.
Ain't it though?
"The problem(and a maybe blessing for the fight on terror) is Bush will not listen to anyone else until he is forced to."
Yeah, I vote that he wait to effectively secure the borders until AFTER the next 9/11. Then, when we lose the WOT here at home, they can change their name to "Bush Apologist".
This is total crap! People DO want to fight if it's about the right thing, if it's about winning and driving conservatism. If you don't understand what is really going on here, you're just fooling yourself. We haven't won anything. We have lost our way on the conservative march and we should be way ahead on this road.
Ok, we got Alito and Roberts, and we got our asses kicked before we could fully take control, now what are we going to do, we haven't reached the goal? We can't do anything now that's because moderates don't stand steadfast in conservatism, or anything else for that matter, and they've lost it for us because they don't fight for anything!!
"By your first few definitions, I am certainly NOT a "Bush conservative."
Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya!"
See I think that the point. We seem lately to be focused on telling people to leave and get out. There have been whole discussions telling Libertarians to get out. Big Business and other concerns get the hell out. Etc Etc.
I ma not sure why we can't all listen to each other and come to a consensus and Republicans and conservatives. Then take the fight to the libs. It seems to have worked before.
It does seem that the Circuit Court and District Court drama went into the background ad disappeared. In other words we were not having the spector of having a huge floorfight on who was going to be District Judge in Lexington Kentucky every two weeks.
And perhaps the biggest pet peeve of mine are the "Fence First" (code for "Fence Only") conservatives, who project an attitude that they just don't want brown people in their neighborhoods. I'm fine with enforcing our immigration laws, but to say "Secure the Border," and oppose any kind of guest worker program, path to citizenship, and assimilation of immigrants here, ensures we'll never secure a sufficient number of hispanic voters to return to the majority. GOP prospects in AZ, NV, CO, and NM are slipping, but dang! -- we can always be proud that we stood for enforcing the immigration laws, as we sit in a perpetual political minority.
We are not alone more bloggers agree
http://bamapachyderm.com/archives/2006/11/17/i-am-a-bush-conservative/
ITs a movement lol
Megabump! That and this screed is nothing more than verbal bot koolaid.
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