Family Free-Riders (Childless adults are economic free riders)

Chicago Boyz ^ | March 03, 2006 | Shannon Love

[humblegunner]

just too bad the Texans haven't been able to win many any more since that one!!

Fixed!

[CzarNicky]

In regards to the idiotic statement that let off this thread I have this to say. "No taxation without representation." No vote means no taxes paid.

Secondly in regards to the insane idea that everyone should have children I can only say that the fact that I can reproduce proves that there is no intelligent design.

[Allegra]

Fixed!

Uh-huh....thought I'd gone to bed, didn't you? I saw that.

:-P

[Marie]

I suppose one could call me a "breeder". I homeschool mine and still have to pay property taxes.

You're preachin' to the choir!

But, no. I do NOT think that people who are unwilling to breed should do so. Parenting is the hardest job I've ever done and should never be forced on the unwilling.

[numberonepal]

Yes you do. Give me your email address, and I’ll send you lots more.

I get enough, be assured. And my biological clock has a lot of ticking left to do, thank you very much.

[Brytani]

Ummm I was trying to be nice...geeeeze

[Scourge of God]

I get enough, be assured. And my biological clock has a lot of ticking left to do, thank you very much.

Hmmmm, is that a proposition?

[ElTianti]

That's great. Look, I don’t have anything against children or people who have them. I just reject the notion that the childless are getting some sort of “free ride”.

[numberonepal]

Hmmmm, is that a proposition?

Umm, no. Besides I'd doubt you could handle the frequency.

[BlueNgold]

Please tell me you're joking...

[Marie]

Simply having kids isn't enough. They must be educated and be reared preferably by two responsible parents, a mother and a father or else they add to ignorant disaffected masses who do not work or produce as it is.

This needs to be repeated.

[BagelFace]

The childless shouldn't be allowed to vote. They have little interest in the future of the nation.

Good thing there's welfare, eh? (You need to find more productive work.)

[BossLady]

"the number of children living in families receiving AFDC/TANF (welfare)payments fell to 4.0 million children in 2003" from http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/indicators/50AFDCTANF.cfm

If you cannot afford children....don't make me pay for them!

[Scourge of God]

Umm, no. Besides I'd doubt you could handle the frequency.

Oh, but I'll never know unless I try.

[MineralMan]

"I did think you were supporting those that did not want to have children. Those who wanted but couldn't have children need no defense. I did not recall your saying that you wanted children."

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Well. So you ASSumed that I didn't want children, even though I said nothing of the sort. I did not say I wanted children. I said nothing other than that I did not have children.

Why I do not have children is absolutely nobody's business but mine and my wife's. That is my whole point. This thread began with the incredibly stupid statement that people who did not have children should not have the right to vote.

It did not say that people who didn't WANT children shouldn't have the right to vote. It said merely that people without children shouldn't have the right to vote.

Many people do not have children. For some, it is a choice. Priests and nuns fall into that category, as do single people and some couples. Others cannot have children for various reasons. Still others forgo having children because of hereditary illnesses they do not wish to pass on.

The bottom line on all of these situations is that it is absolutely nobody's business whether any given person has children or does not have children.

On the other hand, some people have children by accident, through stupidity, or to make money. Our welfare rolls are clogged with people who have children just to get a check each month. The more kids, the more money.

Our teenagers have children at what I consider to be an alarming rate. Many have abortions, but lots have children, especially in some inner cities.

So, this last group gets to vote, while a nice middle class couple without children does not. Does that make sense to you? It sure doesn't make sense to me.

This started with a stupid statement. That statement is still stupid. And you still do not know why I am childless. You will never know the answer to that question.

[CzarNicky]

"Look at it this way, childless whiners: you are, right now, benefiting from the labor and efforts of ‘breeders’. All those folks of yesteryear who were so stupid as to sacrifice and raise children gave you the future and the world you now have. The builders, the soldiers, the thinkers, the laborers, the leaders, they all came from ‘breeders’.

You’d have crap right now without them. You’d be living in a hole in a village that resembles Africa, if not for those ‘breeders’.

Now, why are you so pissy about building the future for those to come? We are carrying you! "

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Goodness, another one. Oh, well.

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They're breeding

[RockinRight]

The problem is that people like Scourge of God and FreedomSplurge ARE breeding! The odds aren't in favor of those kids turning out any less closed-minded and moronic than their parents.

[CaliGirlGodHelpMe]

"The childless shouldn't be allowed to vote. They have little interest in the future of the nation."

That is so wrong on so many levels it's hard to come up with a cogent response. Here's my stab at it.

I know a lot of people who shouldn't have even been THINKING of having children (because of their lifestyles, partners, immaturity, mental problems, drug use, etc.) yet they all have two or three. Now, let's calculate the cost to society that these so-called "selfless" parents have wrought, shall we? The trauma, drama, instability and pain these children are enduring will, unless they are very unusual, result in future burdens to the welfare system, food stamps, Medicare, the court system, drug rehabs, court-appointed psychiatrists, halfway houses, jails and prisons and their followups, parole and probation departments. This is, of course, not to mention the pain and suffering they will cause their victims throughout their lives, including innocent bystanders like me who had nothing to do with the decision of their parents to have children. You get my point? The next time you think of people who don't have children as "selfish" - do us all a favor - think again.

[Warren_Piece]

This has got to be the dumbest thread EVER posted on FR. Yet, I keep coming back. It's like a car wreck - you can't turn away...

[MineralMan]

"The problem is that people like Scourge of God and FreedomSplurge ARE breeding! The odds aren't in favor of those kids turning out any less closed-minded and moronic than their parents."

Oddly enough, I have not seen either of them write that they DO have children. Considering the source of the original article...something about "collegeboyz," my guess is that the original poster is some guy in his 20s...with libertarian leanings...who probably still lives at home...and who is planning a career as a LINUX consultant somewhere in Idaho.

That's the sort who usually writes this sort of dimwitted observation.