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The Matrix as Marxist Propaganda
New Republican Archive ^ | Nov. 2004 | James F. Burke

Posted on 05/22/2005 6:36:18 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis

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1 posted on 05/22/2005 6:36:18 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

Okay. . .that's it. . .posting terms papers should be banned.


2 posted on 05/22/2005 6:46:18 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Gunrunner2

no kidding... all he had to say was that his 10 bucks were ill-spent.


3 posted on 05/22/2005 6:47:13 PM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

so, someone is actually arguing that harris and klebold had their brains fried by this movie and they were not responsible for their actions?


4 posted on 05/22/2005 6:47:53 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

This was practically unreadable and is trying to read waaaaaaaaayyyy too much into these movies.

What a waste of effort.


5 posted on 05/22/2005 6:50:54 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
As much of this as I could stand to read all I can say is what a bunch of $h1t!

After a few sentences it lost all credibility with me. There is no leftist or socialist message in any of The Matrix films. It just isn't there. I would be willing to go out on a limb ans say that I doubt the author even saw any of the movies.
6 posted on 05/22/2005 7:00:46 PM PDT by KoRn (~Halliburton Told Me......)
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To: finnman69

Perhaps the author would be happier with a hobby. Given the obvious obsession with minutiae, I suggest stamp collecting.


7 posted on 05/22/2005 7:07:53 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
It is a Euro-Left "philosophy" rooted in Marxist Anarchism and political Nihilism...

WTF is "marxist anarchy"? Marxism is centralized governmental control of everything. Anarchy is complete chaos and lack of governmental controls. This sentence basically says "It is a leftist philosophy rooted in leftist rightism and political rightism."

Nihilism . n

A diffuse, revolutionary movement of mid 19th-century Russia that scorned authority and tradition and believed in reason, materialism, and radical change in society and government through terrorism and assassination. i.e. chaos, aka anarchy e.g. extreme rightism.

Again, WTF does this mean?

8 posted on 05/22/2005 7:37:38 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

I loved the first movie, the effects were incredible. However, the second and third movies were junk.

I didn't read the article above, I don't think anyone cares about the "hidden codes" anymore, since the trilogy jumped the shark during the sweaty party in the cave. Also, one of the two brothers decided he was a woman.

Sorry I didn't take this seriously enough.


9 posted on 05/22/2005 8:02:47 PM PDT by soloNYer (Albany Slimes Union: trying to get to the left of their heroes the New York Slimes)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

Wheew. I read the entire article. Basically the author points out that Matrix movies show the Asian(Chinese-Hindu-Japanese) Black Bolshevik Zionist conspiracy against the White Christian Western Capitalist world.


10 posted on 05/22/2005 9:40:00 PM PDT by sagar (Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first_ Chanakya, 4th c. BC)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis

Holy shiite, Batman, what the hell is going on here? I almost went blind trying to read this! What is Marxist Anarchism? Last I checked Marxists were all about central state control, and anarchists were all about zero govt. So you lost me there. On another note I thought the 1st Matrix movie sucked, so I never saw the other two. Now I'm gonna have to, just to see if you are full of it or not.

By the way, what grade did you recieve for this term paper?


11 posted on 05/23/2005 11:21:10 AM PDT by sean327 (All men are created equal, then some become Marines!)
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Time to read first before spewing. The reference to "central state control" means you have obviously confused Leninism(and LaSallean tendencies in the social democratic movement) with Marxist thought, per se. The very question of, and differences in, approaches to the role of the state in accelerating progress towards socialism and then communism is at the heart of deep divisions between parties of the Second International (www.socialistinternational.org), Moscow's Third (now defunct) International, the Trotskyite Fourth International, and Anarchist milieu, etc. There are various tendencies in the "Anarchist" movement as well, from neo-Libertarian to neo-Marxist. This article might help you on the way since it deals, in part, with neo-Marxist anarchist thought..
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=10250&query=proletarian&ct=


12 posted on 05/23/2005 5:48:14 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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To: KoRn

A board member of the Democratic Socialists of America has cameos in the film and stated in an interview that he was told by the brothers that his books were the inspiration for the series. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/movies/matrix6_20030606.htm

If you think this article was hard to read, try reading Baudrillard and West.


13 posted on 05/23/2005 5:54:25 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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A board member of the Democratic Socialists of America has cameos in the film and stated in an interview that he was told by the brothers that his books were the inspiration for the series. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/movies/matrix6_20030606.htm

If you think this article was hard to read, try reading Baudrillard and West.


14 posted on 05/23/2005 5:55:39 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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"If you think this article was hard to read, try reading Baudrillard and West."

For those longer articles, just do a separate post with brackets in the title that read "Cliff Notes For KoRn" and ping me

;^)

15 posted on 05/23/2005 6:01:00 PM PDT by KoRn (~Halliburton Told Me......)
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The following comes from the creator of the series Larry Wachowski, who is quoted here (speaking seriously about the "philosophical" inquiry of the films that WB itself promoted).

http://www.matrixfans.net/symbolism/meanings.php

Larry: Yeah, and he's probably more of a marxist than I am [Ken laughs], in terms of these ideas affecting and informing history...


16 posted on 06/11/2005 12:17:31 AM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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Reading too much into it?

Here is Larry Wachowski, the creator, quoted on a fan site talking about the films...

http://www.matrixfans.net/symbolism/meanings.php

Larry: Yeah, and he's probably more of a marxist than I am [Ken laughs], in terms of these ideas affecting and informing history...


17 posted on 06/11/2005 12:22:15 AM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis (.)
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To: Gunrunner2

Wow, I lost track of how many times I fell asleep.


18 posted on 06/11/2005 1:43:41 AM PDT by 4KennewickMan2Invent (To think or not to think. That's where I draw the line between good and bad.)
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To: KoRn

LOL


19 posted on 06/11/2005 1:47:10 AM PDT by 4KennewickMan2Invent (To think or not to think. That's where I draw the line between good and bad.)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
And here I took it as a movie that said, "Hey don't be a slave to those who wish to control your mind. Find the pattern and break free of the non thinking oppression".

Apparently, it's a few hundred million dollar dollars worth of propaganda against capitalism and freedom. I liked the first one and was disappointed in the last two. Especially the "let's make a deal with the dictators" part in the end.

Please don't write about Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. I liked those and don't want to know about the (insert radical group here)movement against the (pick an economic class). I thought the hobbits were brave (little people or farmers?), Gandalf rocked (apparently a reference to David Koresh?), and female elves are hot (Porn pushers?).

I guess I need a movie code book.
20 posted on 06/11/2005 1:57:16 AM PDT by 4KennewickMan2Invent (To think or not to think. That's where I draw the line between good and bad.)
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