DUmmie FUnnies 05-17-05 ("I'm pretty upset right now, and I need an explanation" ---Pitt)

DUmmie FUnnies ^ | May 17, 2005 | William Rivers Pitt, DUmmies, and PJ-Comix

[Toadman]

R O T F L M A O !!!

Your post was better than my first cup of coffee!

[commonguymd]

NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Wed May-18-05 12:20 AM
Response to Original message

104. Hang in there Andy!


All your friends want you to beat this thing's scrawny ass!



lmao - good catch!

[Nataku X]

Hmm... you've built an excellent case for Termite here. My only argument is that you're underestimating the magnitude of Pitt's guilt. If my suspicions are correct, then he is the man directly responsible for pulling strings and orchesterating fundraisers on all those website off-DU, including major biggies like Daily Kos. You can bet that Andy's recourse is going to be, "William Pitts did it all, I didn't say a thing" and when the feds investigate and inquire the owners of those blogs, they're going to be saying, "William Pitts asked us to do this." In a sense, it may even be that William Pitts looks more guilty than Andy Stephenson on the surface.

Yes, Pitts is a victim, but IMHO he's not stupid enough to rely on the goodwill of federal persecuters and judges, so he's going to play it safe and be the first to draw blood to ensure that he gets no jail time or heavy civil fines. He has a lot of choices to make; the way I see it, in terms of game theory his choice to defect would be nearly dominant--only outweighed by 2 miniscule chances wherein cooperation would be superior: that no one will say anything to the government and no one will persecute anyone, and the tiny chance that Andy Stephenson will end up having pancreatic cancer anyway (very unlikely at this timeline in his diagnosis).

I would agree that it is very possible that Termite has a lot to lose by not defecting too... it depends on the kind of person he is and I agree it is quite possible he and Pitt could be doing this together.

This is so exciting to me on a mathematical level because it's like a book of game theory came into real life.

[commonguymd]

goes back to DECEMBER!

How much. That has been my question. If they show paypal receipts and only document the last week in April and the first week in May - that would account for 50000. They have been out there professionaly fundraising since December - I am certain it is much more than 50000.

I think the money thing is the key.

[Barset]

Overdue thanks for the Jeanarrette link.

It is frightening that there are people so bereft of common sense that they can be persuaded that their collective good vibes cured Andy's cancerous pancreas.

"To hell with the $50,000."

Uh, okay.

[Centaur]

Baffling isn't it? Unless of course you read page 57 of the "How to be a Lefty" sheeple manual.

[commonguymd]

I think Skinner's crackdown on the subject, and the fact that he never came back and clarified is revealing.

The fact that sfexpat2000 keeps shilling is revealing.

Termite went back to the left coast - why?

William Pitt has been doubting for a week now and finally let loose - His "I believe" side was finally overcome with the truth----- for now.

Andy was cleverly watching his words until yesterday and has slinked off for the time being - letting sfexpat2000 fight the fight now.

Someone updated information and tried to clarify the situation on the last post in one thread last night - who they talked to on a pm is a mystery.

My money would be on Skinner. He is noticeable quiet and has been when he stated that he would clear it up. sfexpat2000 is using Skinners name still to make it legit.



Is he leaving some doors open to give just enough room so the accomplices make just enough rope? Enough rope to implicate?

[commonguymd]

Here is the post I am talking about when someone came out and tried to clarify. Who did they pm? Skinner is still being used. I think it is Skinner working behind the scenes to let all the accomplices implicate themselves. He probably has no choice.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3675200#3677485

merh (1000+ posts) Tue May-17-05 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #105

111. I pmailed and these are the answers I got to your questions, I hope

Edited on Tue May-17-05 10:29 PM by merh
they help.

1) Was Andy diagnosed with pancreatic cancer? THE SYMPTOMS HE PRESENTED WERE CONSISTENT WITH CANCER OF THE PANCREAS. BEFORE HE FOUND OUT HE WAS GOING TO BE TREATED AT JOHNS HOPKINS, HIS DOCTOR IN SEATTLE WANTED TO BEGIN CHEMOTHERAPY.

2) When was the diagnosis changed; DIAGNOSIS HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED. When Andy's May 11 surgery was cancelled due to administrative failures, Johns Hopkins did arrange for more pre-operative tests. A more intricate scan was performed by Johns Hopkins last week. That test reflected or indicates that the cancer/tumor/growth/mass has not metastized, it has not spread to other organs, it is localized or contained. The surgeon won't know what he will find until he cuts him open. He won't know if it is malignant or benign until he performs the surgery and not until after pathology does the testing of its cells.

3) Where was the DU party when that diagnosis was changed? THERE HAS BEEN NO PARTY because Andy is still sick, the surgery is still to be performed on the 26th and Johns Hopkins is still charging Andy to let them cut him open to remove the growth/tumor/mass/cancer, whatever it may be.

As Skinner posted in his thread, when the time is right, he will provide the necessary updates. He was satisfied with the documents, releases, proof that was provided to him.

[commonguymd]

I doubt Will would jeopardize his ego and credibility to fall prey and be a part of a scam. Just from the way he is lashing out. He appears genuinely duped.

My bet is Skinner. Termite has been with Andy according to the shady eyewitnesses. He just now went back to Seattle. Is he cashing in?

This is all so fascinating.

[franksolich]

ANDY ALERT!

ANDY ALERT!

ANDY STILL IN HIDING! ALMOST 24 HOURS MISSING NOW!

NUMBERS REVEAL, BETRAY, THAT DUMMIELAND GAINED MORE THAN 1,000 "REGISTERED USERS" IN ONE DAY, WHILE MORE THAN 800 TOMBSTONED (NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME ONES)!

PROBLEM ON DUMMIE FUNNIES RESOLVED; HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DUMMIES!

FUND-RAISERS FOR ANDY STARTED MONTH EARLIER THAN EARLIER DISCOVERED!



As for the glitch that happened in the DUmmie FUnnies last night, where a little box showed up every time someone "refreshed" the page, that happens whenever someone posts a photograph directly from a web-site that is "password protected." It has nothing to do with being "infiltrated."

I had this happen to me once when reading one of Doug from Upland's most excellent threads. When that happens, simply alert an administrator or moderator to delete the image (the administrator or moderator knows how to detect which image it is), and then have the original poster post the image again, from a non-"password protected" site.

In other news, Lutz found a fund-solicitation for Andy dated December 23, 2004, which was about a month earlier than similar solicitations any of us had found.....leading one to suspect Andy was padding his wallet even as Bev Harris was paying him ($4,000 per month, and yes, he got paid).

In the meantime, the DUmmies are still questioning the "lockdown":

FlemingsGhost (1000+ posts) Wed May-18-05 03:50 AM Original message Don't have a question about DU policy. Have a question for DUers:

How can fundraising efforts for other DUers be done smarter?

Don't know why Mods are locking these threads.

Our money is our business. Unless DUers like the pointless drama that has resulted twice now.

fleabert (1000+ posts) Wed May-18-05 03:54 AM Response to Original message 1. multiple locks on threads means one thing...stop starting them. Send a pm to a mod or admin.

The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Wed May-18-05 03:54 AM Response to Original message 2. Locking

Do not put me, Sir, to the trouble of doing this again tonight.

Also in the meantime, the DUmmies are unwittingly discussing the "root cause" of the problem with Andy:

Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Tue May-17-05 10:46 PM Original message Money is the root of all evil.

Inland (1000+ posts) Tue May-17-05 10:48 PM Response to Original message 1. That's not the quote.

Avarice is the root of all evil. St. Paul, I think.

Neo (1000+ posts) Tue May-17-05 10:48 PM Response to Original message 2. so they say

But if you ask for a rise it's no surprise they're giving it none away

carnie_sf (620 posts) Wed May-18-05 03:01 AM Response to Original message 3. Actually it's the love of money (greed) that is the root of all evil.

TheGoldenRule (938 posts) Wed May-18-05 03:04 AM Response to Original message 4. And you can't take it with you. eom

DrDebug (995 posts) Wed May-18-05 04:08 AM Response to Original message 5. Power is the root of evil

Money is one of the means to get power, but money only applies for economic power.

Fred: And............?

[steve-b]

They wanted to know what prison is like since I spent some time there and what their best course of action should be.
Can Scamdy take his new pet puppy with him to prison?

No... but I'm fairly sure that he can get acupunctured in the south end.

[commonguymd]

I think Will was the catalyst, the big catch by Andy to ramp up the dollars coming in. Andy had to maintain a way of life, and get treatment at the same time. No way the amount of money coming in could cover both unless he landed a big fish. He got it and the money poured in. Will just wanted to "believe" imo.

[PJ-Comix]

Andy is classic a sociopath and wouldn't find it too hard to draw someone like Will in to his sad story.

[gate2wire]

He's going to be very popular.
Undie: "In high school I was a tight end...now I'm a wide receiver."

[MisterRepublican]

Hey all you DU lurkers, media outlets and LE agencies, here's the e-mail address provided by Beth Ferrari AKA sfexpat2000 AKA "Keeper of the Books" for all of your "questions" and "concerns" about the "Help Andy" fundraising campaign.

sfexpat2000 Donating member (1000+ posts)
Thu Apr-28-05 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. If anyone can take this out to the communities Andy's worked for that would be awesome.

Here is an address for me,keeper of the books: info@dougzilla.com should anyone have a concern or a question.

Thank you, Lisa!


I wouldn't count on a response from Beth about all this at the moment, though.
And remember everybody, "Politicize My Plight!™".

[PJ-Comix]

Still no Pied Piper Pitt apology this AM but waiting. He promised us an APOLOGY today. "Forgive me for being an IDIOT!!!"

[franksolich]

It's early yet.

[txradioguy]

To heck with another screed from Wee Willy Pitt.


I wanna hear from $kimmer.

I want to know where he's been through this debacle.

[gate2wire]

Man, don't you guys ever sleep.
Thanks for all the work...and the laughs.

[MisterRepublican]

"...leading one to suspect Andy was padding his wallet even as Bev Harris was paying him ($4,000 per month, and yes, he got paid)."

I'm beginning to suspect Andy has been doing this since the time of his failed run for SoS WA, or maybe even before that while he was on the Bev&Andy Road Show. That would take it back a year at least.


Maybe he was asking for personal donations the whole time he worked for Bev. Maybe that was one of the problems that led to his dismissal from BBV. But I am convinced more than ever that this all begins at BBV.