Posted on 05/17/2005 12:04:34 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
Looks like this one's mind has been opened, used as a rug and reinserted into it's head...
uppityperson (1000+ posts) Wed May-18-05 04:49 PM
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22. stop, you're making me paranoid about myself
I am laughing so hard at all your postings here. Why do they waste their time? The minds of the ones who lurk for a while might be opened a tiny little bit, but I think this is more my naive wish. At least they're not beating someone while they are here.
Well dang, guess I really wanted to make a point!@
Sure, start up a PayPal account and we'll see how much you can get!
Okay, looks like thing have slowed down for the rest of the day.
Andy did call me. He called a mod/administrator on another site who PMed me for my number. He said he had a 90 minute conversation with Andy. I said I wanted to talk to Andy. Only half serious when I said it.
He passed my number on and Andy called. Why? I have no Earthly idea. None. But Andy told me about his diagnosis, about when the "Groucho" picture was taken and his falling out with Bev Harris.
I do believe the man is sick. Maybe even seriously ill. Dying? I don't know.
I am not trying say the man is innocent in all of this, I do not know. But for the last two weeks we have been post all the info we come across in search of the truth. So it comes to what do we really want? To belittle and rake DU and Andy over coals on this or the truth?
The truth MAY or MAY NOT be what we thought originally, but it will be the truth. I will not hold on to infomation that my show I was wrong if in the end it leads to the truth. If the truth makes me look like an idiot in the end so be it, it is the truth.
I am not wholly satisfied about the money, but the checks according to someone who did look into it, cleared. One thing to keep in mind is, you CAN cancel what ever procedure was being done and Johns Hopkins will cut you a check as a refund.
Thanks, Speed!
Regardless of the outcome, keep us posted.
Thought I'd wait a day or two before I bumped up the price. :)
You'll show me how if I give you $10, right? That still you're going rate? :)
Always been right here.
Actually, it would be THREE times.
If this is a dupe I apologize:
Skinner ADMIN Donating member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-18-05 10:45 AM
Original message
Please, no more discussion of the Andy Stephenson situation.
It is the opinion of the DU Administrators that continued discussion of the Andy Stephenson situation here on Democratic Underground really serves no purpose, and is only serving to make people more angry and suspicious of each other. We don't really see how any of this discussion can possibly get us any closer to the truth. Here is what the administrators know about this situation right now.
1. Nobody really knows the truth about this except Andy and his doctors.
2. The administrators of Democratic Underground have never confirmed or denied the validity of Andy Stephenson's claim. We have our own opinions on the matter. But we honestly do not know the truth.
3. At this time, there is no way for anyone to find out what the truth is. People keep telling me that I can somehow get to the bottom of this, but I assure you that I cannot. Federal privacy laws forbid the hospital from talking to me right now, even if Andy signs a waiver. Paper records can be faked. People can lie. (Please do not take my comments as a statement on the validity of Andy's claim. I'm just trying to be honest about the issues involved.)
4. We have already explained how we intend to approach this issue. If/when Andy becomes an inpatient at Johns Hopkins, and if/when he signs a waiver, then I will be able to call Johns Hopkins and get confirmation that he is an inpatient there. Before that time, Johns Hopkins assures me that they are totally forbidden from talking to me, even if Andy signs a waiver. I have been told that Andy's surgery has been rescheduled for May 26, so I can't do anything until then. If/when I get verification, I will report back to DU. If I get no verification, I will report that instead.
5. Many people have accused me of having something to hide here, or have insisted that I could have stopped any of this from happening. Both of these accusations are without merit. I have no connection to Andy Stephenson, I have never met him, I am not a character reference for him. I have nothing to hide, and nothing to gain from this entire situation. I could have stopped this whole situation from happening if I forbade people from raising money in the first place, but that would have (possibly) kept a sick person from getting treatment, and furthermore would have likely offended a large number of DU members who want the opportunity to help. You are all adults, and you can decide where you feel comfortable spending your money.
6. Further discussion of this topic is entirely speculative, and will get us no closer to the truth. In fact, it just seems to be making people paranoid, combative, and upset.
7. If Andy is sick, I hope that he gets well. All of this squabbling can't be helping him. I am touched by the generosity of this community. We believe that there is no shame in choosing to donate to Andy, and there is no shame in choosing not to donate.
8. I am instructing the moderators to shut down all further discussion of this topic. This thread is locked so no more discussion can take place here.
Thank you for your understanding.
Skinner
DU Admin
If you do find out you need more money, just let me know and I'll take care of collecting the money for you. You shouldn't have to worry about those details when you're as depressed are you are right now (but can we make it Hawaii instead? I really think you can get better care there)
I have loved his poems since I was in High school!
What was his diagnosis? Does he have cancer?
Thanks for the concern... I appreciate the help. Hawaii's okay as long as there's a Holiday Inn Express in Hawaii. Is there?!
So much for being an open forum.
"Hey, you guys may be getting duped! Instead of allowing you to share your concerns, we're going to pretend it never hapenned...sort of like November 2nd. Love you all. Skinner."
Niiiiice. But, very stressful, I understand.
So, you gonna fill us in on what happened between what you were saying last night and what happened today? Sounded like a done deal yesterday.
S_A, is that poster's account still active (I notice he was at the 1000 post mark)?
And Andy still AWOL? Skinner coming unscrewed! William "the weenie" Pitt banned?
Yeah, what's up with that? Has Pied Piper Pitt been tombstoned? Can anybody confirm this?
Yeah this is the epitome of "nothing to see her folks...move along!
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