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CARBON DATING UNDERCUTS EVOLUTION'S LONG AGES
ICR ^ | October, 2003 | John Baumgardner

Posted on 09/25/2003 2:46:02 PM PDT by HalfFull

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n view of the profound significance of these AMS 14C measurements, the ICR Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth (RATE) team has undertaken its own AMS 14C analyses of such fossil material.2 The first set of samples consisted of ten coals obtained from the U. S. Department of Energy Coal Sample Bank maintained at the Pennsylvania State University. The ten samples include three coals from the Eocene part of the geological record, three from the Cretaceous, and four from the Pennsylvanian. These samples were analyzed by one of the foremost AMS laboratories in the world. Figure 1 below shows in histogram form the results of these analyses.

These values fall squarely within the range already established in the peer-reviewed radiocarbon literature. When we average our results over each geological interval, we obtain remarkably similar values of 0.26 percent modern carbon (pmc) for Eocene, 0.21 pmc for Cretaceous, and 0.27 pmc for Pennsylvanian. Although the number of samples is small, we observe little difference in 14C level as a function of position in the geological record. This is consistent with the young-earth view that the entire macrofossil record up to the upper Cenozoic is the product of the Genesis Flood and therefore such fossils should share a common 14C age. !

It seems that there is just to much carbon in 'dem dare, fossil hills!

1 posted on 09/25/2003 2:46:03 PM PDT by HalfFull
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To: HalfFull
Pathetic.

2 posted on 09/25/2003 2:48:49 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: DittoJed2; gore3000; goodseedhomeschool (returned); f.Christian; JesseShurun; AndrewC; ...
Interesting that all the layers have approx the same level of Carbon14 ...PING...
3 posted on 09/25/2003 2:52:15 PM PDT by HalfFull
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To: HalfFull
Let me whoop up some popcorn and get settled in.
4 posted on 09/25/2003 2:52:31 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: HalfFull
Grow up, get used to it. Evidence for evolution is overwelming. Try to reconcile it with your believe
system if you feel the need.
5 posted on 09/25/2003 2:52:53 PM PDT by Tac12
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Grow up, get used to it. Evidence for evolution is overwelming. Try to reconcile it with your believe system if you feel the need.

Insults...just as I would expect. That you can't refute the findings and have to resort to the usual insults is typical. Ho-hum.

6 posted on 09/25/2003 2:55:28 PM PDT by HalfFull
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This is one of the worst attempts I've seen yet by the young earth bunch. Carbon 14 dating is unreliable past about 20,000 years or so. And I love this little chestnut:

Although creationists have long pointed out the rock formations themselves testify unmistakably to water catastrophism on a global scale,

OK, if that were the case, what uplifted and tilted those formations, eroded them away, and then deposited MORE formations on top of the eroded surfaces? I don't recall reading of TWO floods.

7 posted on 09/25/2003 2:55:39 PM PDT by dirtboy (CongressmanBillyBob/John Armor for Congress - you can't separate them, so send 'em both to D.C.)
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To: Tac12
To liberals ... all conservatives are education failures --- drop outs !

To a liberal // libertarian... democracy is consentual slavery to the state (( libido )) --- tyranny - social engineering (( evolution )) !

All done through brainwashing - indoctrination ... ' voluntary ' --- robots - YOU (( dumb )) !
8 posted on 09/25/2003 2:56:46 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: Tac12
There is no conflict at all between the Hebrew Bible and the various evolutionary theories.
9 posted on 09/25/2003 2:58:06 PM PDT by onedoug
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Pathetic

that you post within 2 minutes of me posting the article shows you didn't even try to read and absorb the study. Nothing is more sad than a closed mind.

10 posted on 09/25/2003 2:58:20 PM PDT by HalfFull
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So mainstream science is on its last legs again this week? It's been there continuously since 1859!
11 posted on 09/25/2003 3:00:18 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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This is one of the worst attempts I've seen yet by the young earth bunch. Carbon 14 dating is unreliable past about 20,000 years or so.

Obviously you didn't read the article. What it says is that there IS measurable C14 throughout the fossil layers, showing that the material is less than 20,000 years.

Reading an article before posting about it is always helpfull.

12 posted on 09/25/2003 3:00:33 PM PDT by HalfFull
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that you post within 2 minutes of me posting the article shows you didn't even try to read and absorb the study.

It doesn't take more than 2 or 3 minutes to read an article of this length. Does it?

13 posted on 09/25/2003 3:02:12 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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So mainstream science is on its last legs again this week? REAL science is always searching, using facts...not "should have beens", "could of's", and "maybe so" of the Evolution Religion.
14 posted on 09/25/2003 3:02:56 PM PDT by HalfFull
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Despite this all and other doubts, there remains far more evidence supporting the theory of evolution than there is supporting the existence of a deity.

Prove that God exists.

15 posted on 09/25/2003 3:03:10 PM PDT by ForOurFuture
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mainstream science ...

No problem ... evolution septic tank --- backed up - overflowing !

16 posted on 09/25/2003 3:04:03 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: ForOurFuture
Prove that God exists.

How old are you --- mentally ?

17 posted on 09/25/2003 3:05:25 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: Prodigal Son
It doesn't take more than 2 or 3 minutes to read an article of this length. Does it

It is possible, perhaps he/she is a speed reader with quick comprehension. But maybe not....

18 posted on 09/25/2003 3:05:25 PM PDT by HalfFull
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To liberals ... all conservatives are education failures --- drop outs !

To a liberal // libertarian... democracy is consentual slavery to the state (( libido ))
--- tyranny - social engineering (( evolution )) !

All done through brainwashing - indoctrination ... ' voluntary ' --- robots - YOU (( dumb )) !

Whoa, very compelling and concise. I'll use it as a tag line next time I'm psychopathic.

19 posted on 09/25/2003 3:05:45 PM PDT by humblegunner (You! Yes, you behind the bike sheds! Stand still, laddie!)
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To: ForOurFuture
No problem proving God exists. Quite a bit of trouble proving that your particular sect is the only one with the true definition.
20 posted on 09/25/2003 3:06:49 PM PDT by js1138
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