'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

[goodseedhomeschool]

I have only been to Canada (yuck) and Mexico. I really want to visit the Holy Land one day. My son wants to go to Jamaica (go figure).

[JesseShurun]

there is only ONE of him in the religion.... so I think we have a winner

[Aric2000]

Yes, that is correct, was born and raised a Roman Catholic, was an altar boy even, went to private catholic school until the 10th grade.

And no, I am NOT a christian, and never could be again.

Give it up guys, not only will you NEVER guess, I am NEVER going to tell you, so get onto other things.

[goodseedhomeschool]

HOw did you get out of that spot with the guy and the gun in your face. I bet that was scary.

[ALS]

hehehehe

wished i knew how (i jest of course)

[ApesForEvolution]

Do you expose yourself to scientific theory that is not biased non-Christian scientists, but rather is posited by scientists that claim Christ as their Savior and still adhere to logical construction?

[Aric2000]

Sorry, but there are a lot of people that believe as I do, we just don't discuss it.... LOL

[JesseShurun]

are you a White Supremacist?

[goodseedhomeschool]

Your story I have heard before from a few others. I am sorry if you had a bad experience. It was not God's fault though. He still loves you very much.

[RadioAstronomer]

Anyways, science is about facts not degrees or where it is published.

“Facts” is not the word I would have used. “Models” (IMHO) is probably closer to the mark. However, peer review does keep every "hair-brained/crackpot" idea from flooding the journals to the point of not being able to share pertinent data between peers and the rest of the world.

[ALS]

Ok, but how about since you refuse to share yours, you stop using ours against us.

Anything else is hypocritical at best.

There's a lot of good folks that would like to contribute to these threads that fear that they'll just be hounded because of their personal beliefs.
Which they will, unless you guys stop.

[shhrubbery!]

But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory

There's no scientific evidence underlying macro-evolutionary theory. Unless you count Piltdown Man.

[ALS]

"Sorry, but there are a lot of people that believe as I do, we just don't discuss it"

MUFON?

[JesseShurun]

wiccan? white supremicist wiccan, correct?

[f.Christian]

To: Aric2000

js ...


are you a White Supremacist?


428 posted on 06/22/2003 10:02 PM PDT by JesseShurun (The Hazzardous Duke)


fC ...

sacred cow supremacist (( darwin goose eggs chase )) !

[Aric2000]

That is actually a funny story, I was coming back to post after a weekend in Istanbul, got on the bus that went through Corlu on it's way to Bulgaria, any bus North would take me back to post, so I get on the bus, it's around 9:30 at night or so, and it's 2 hours back to post, so I tell the ticket taker to wake me up when we got to Corlu(Chorlu) and went to sleep.

Needless to say, the bum did NOT wake me up, woke up with the business end of a machine gun waking me up at the border, told the guy that I had fallen asleep and gone too far, He let me go, I got off the bus and ran back to the border. Caught a bus south and got to post around 2:30 in the morning, got up at 5 and did PT, worked all day, then went to bed early!!

Yes, it was a VERY frightening experience.... It's rather funny thinking back on it, but it was certainly NOT funny at the time.

[JesseShurun]

the art of deduction f., ex-army, guns, Washington State, hates Catholics, homeschools, etc

[goodseedhomeschool]

Aric I want to apologize for any mean things I have said first of all. I have not always spoken to you in a Christian manner and for that I am sorry. I would like for you to see something. When you lost your faith as a child, do you remember how it felt? This is exactly why I fight evolution so hard. I feel that it makes kids lose their faith in God much like I think you did, only in a different way. You admit that you will never "be a christian" now. Can't you see why it is so important to us? If there really were real scientific evidence for evolution (not counting micro which I think really should be labled variation of kids) we could not argue it. If any other belief system will hinder our children's faith, it is personal, which is why we take it so. Do you understand that? To lose your faith is devastating to anyone, and to have it done in a public school system by "those who should know science and have such an influence" is even more confusing.
I know many people who have lost faith at one time or another and often it takes a monumental event to restore it. I will not judge you or what you believe and I do not insist that you believe what I do. I would just like you to for once see my point. Thanks.

[f.Christian]

These evoloons operate in a mental intellectual vaccuum ... fr is their swarming grounds !