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Dad who pluggedprowler spurns deal
New York Daily News ^ | 4/08/03 | NANCIE L. KATZ

Posted on 04/08/2003 5:57:45 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Roscoe
State v. Sanne, 116 N.H. 583 (1976)

See definition of subordinate govenment. Grow a brain.

1,141 posted on 04/22/2003 10:04:42 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
The group "Citizens for a Safer Community" does not exist.

The pro-gun group was the lead party in the challenge against City of Rochester's gun laws.

Poor, poor ignorant you.

1,142 posted on 04/22/2003 10:09:26 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Get a grip. The judges decision runs contrary to the state constitution. Oddly, it also runs contrary to the FedCon. Ooops.

How does that hot lead taste?

1,143 posted on 04/22/2003 10:56:43 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
The judges decision runs contrary to the state constitution.

Back to begging the question already?

The City claims its authority to adopt this law resides in its police power, the power of local governments to adopt laws for the preservation of the health, safety and welfare of their citizens as well as for their protection and the maintenance of order. Such power is granted to the City by Article 9, section 2(c) (ii) (10) of the New York State Constitution, Municipal Home Rule Law, section 10, subdivision I(ii) (a) (11) and General City Law, section 20, subdivision 13. This power is limited only by the requirements that such local laws not be in conflict with the State Constitution nor inconsistent with the general laws of the State. These limitations are recognized by the City Charter, section 27(a), which empowers the Council to adopt this legislation. Plaintiffs have not demonstrated that the Gun Control Law in any way encroaches upon these limitations.

It is true that where the State has evidenced any desire or design to occupy an entire field to the exclusion of local law, the City Is powerless to act. (Wholesale Laundry Board of Trade, Inc. v. City of New York, 17 A.D.2d 327, 330, 234 N.Y.S.2d 862, affd. 12 N.Y.2d 998, 239 N.Y.S.2d 128, 189 N.E.2d 623.) However, the fact that a local law may deal with some of the same matters covered by State law does not render the local law invalid. (People v. Lewis, 295 N.Y. 42, 64 N.E.2d 702.) Article 265 of the Penal Law, while it touches upon the possession of rifles or shotguns by persons under the age of sixteen years, aliens, convicted felons and adjudicated incompetents, does not treat so extensively with the subject of the control of such weapons as to evidence any design or intention by the State to preempt the entire field. The sole authority offered by plaintiffs in support of their contention of preemption (People on Complaint of Main v. Klufus, 1 Misc.2d 828, 149 N.Y.S.2d 821, affd. 2 A.D.2d 958, 157 N.Y.S.2d 903) does not support that proposition.

Grimm v. City of New York, 56 Misc.2d 525 (Sup.Ct. 1968)

Poor, poor you.

1,144 posted on 04/22/2003 11:06:52 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
This power is limited only by the requirements that such local laws not be in conflict with the State Constitution nor inconsistent with the general laws of the State.

Despite their trying to twist the general welfare provision...

New York Civ. Rights Law Art. 2, § 4 provides: "[a] well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms cannot be infringed."

Not being able to OWN a firearm, much less getting approval to carry one is an infringement via judicial activism. Both you and this judge must be using the same abbreviated dictionary for your definition of "infringed".

Jackass.

1,145 posted on 04/22/2003 11:25:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Not being able to OWN a firearm, much less getting approval to carry one is an infringement via judicial activism.

Nothing but pathetic question begging.

The regulations in question, which for all your shrieking you haven't even been able to quote, weren't judicial in origin and don't ban firearms ownership.

Poor you.

1,146 posted on 04/22/2003 11:59:49 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
The regulations in question, which for all your shrieking you haven't even been able to quote, weren't judicial in origin and don't ban firearms ownership.

OK. Now try and go buy and register a gun in New York and see how far you get. The requirements to own a firearm impose a complete restriction as none accept those connected to power are allowed as the case which is at the beginning of this whole thing proves out. The judge upheld the law and expanded it beyond the legislatures delegated authority as pre the Constitutions of both New York State and the US Constitution both.

Spin it any way you like it. You are still wrong.

1,147 posted on 04/22/2003 12:29:56 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
By his own account, Mr. Dixon was in the process of obtaining a permt. Don't you ever get tired of begging?
1,148 posted on 04/22/2003 1:47:15 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
And why should that matter? If anything it proves how restrictive and destructive of an individuals Right to self preservation the New York statutes are.

You obviously never get tired of being a moral degenerate. You would rather play infinite word games than allow a person to protect themselves by the most expedient means.

1,149 posted on 04/22/2003 2:08:33 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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