Professor Dumped Over Evolution Beliefs

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/3/112003a.asp ^ | March 11, 2003 | Jim Brown and Ed Vitagliano

[Right Wing Professor]

Give me a break. You just don't like him because he is black

Oh look, the race card.

[ican'tbelieveit]

You played it first.

[Right Wing Professor]

Peanut butter.

Only in February. The rest of the year we give credit to our indigenous fellow citizens.

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blpeanutbutter.htm

[Right Wing Professor]

Huh?

[The Grim Freeper]

My point was that George Washington Carver was a great Chemist and man of science--I was appealing to RWProfessor's self-purported realm of knowledge as a chemistry professor, you know. Given RWP's ignorance, I rather doubt that he is one.

My point in initially posing the question on this thread was that George Washington Carver gave the glory to God for everything discovery he made. He was a lovely, humble Christian and believed in God the Creator. This would disqualify him, according to RWP, from holding a head teaching position in a school.

Laughable, no?

[Right Wing Professor]

But I hope my children never come into contact with RWP in a classroom.

My standard answer to this is that, since intelligence is largely inherited, the hope is mutual.

[ican'tbelieveit]

I expect more of my children than your childishness and unwillingness to accept that people different than yourself can be successful. Since you do not know my accomplishments, you cannot possibly be able to insult me.

[VadeRetro]

He was a lovely, humble Christian and believed in God the Creator. This would disqualify him, according to RWP, from holding a head teaching position in a school.

Are you telling the truth here?

[ican'tbelieveit]

I've seen the name mentioned in connection with Black History month;

it seems unlikely to me he would even be remembered if he were not African American.

But the rest of the stuff surrounding him appears to this observer very much like Black-History-Month-style racial tokenism, something I find patronizing and offensive. All posted by you.

[Dataman]

Was this really your first clue that science doesn't do proofs?

No, but it's rare, verrrrry rare, when one of you concedes anything.

[PatrickHenry]

M'god, what a mucked up thread.

[Right Wing Professor]

That's right. I said a lot of the attention paid to Carver is because he was African American, a fair and defensible opinion. I didn't accuse anyone personally of being racist, as you accused me.

[VadeRetro]

No, but it's rare, verrrrry rare, when one of you concedes anything.

Are you sure the answer is "No?" You dimwits are always screaming "unproven." We're always having to tell you that in real-world science theories may be disproven but not proven. I seem to remember from your first pass on the crevo threads that you were fond of creationist amnesia, starting every thread "born again" and not remembering a thing from previous discussions.

[ican'tbelieveit]

If he were white, and had his list of accomplishments, this would be a moot point, he would be a respected scientist.

[f.Christian]

How does (( evolution )) ...

spontaneous (( magic )) -- morphing (( flux )) ...

matter and life become science ---

silly isn't it !

[Dataman]

You have no idea what my work time is.

I'm a faculty kid. I have a pretty good idea:

1) It ain't likely that an instructor in a state college can post between 8am and 5pm on a regular basis without cutting into school time and

2) It is not dangerous to do so since the education unions protect all sorts of unproductive activities.

You cannot argue that both statements are correct. You can plead your own special case, though.

[Right Wing Professor]

If he were white, and had his list of accomplishments, this would be a moot point, he would be a respected scientist.

Carver has three articles cited in Scifinder, the American Chemical Society's standard journal search engine. Two are patents on inorganic dyes, small variations on existing technology, and one is an article on cultivation of sweet potatoes. Gilbert Nathan Lewis, a chemist of the same generation, and a genuinely great one, whose work is mentioned in every freshman chemistry text (Lewis acids; Lewis structures, etc.), has 81. On the other hand, search google, and you'll find hundreds of hits for Carver, while you'll have to wade through pages of irrelevant google hits to find a biography of Lewis. Carver has a National Park devoted to him. Lewis grew up a few blocks from where I sit, but no one knows exactly where, because the farmhouse is long gone and forgotten. So which one is being ignored on account of his race?

[The Grim Freeper]

You have not told us of your scientific accomplishments. We wait breathlessly.

[Right Wing Professor]

We wait breathlessly.

Excellent. Then in three minutes or so you'll be comatose

[Hacksaw]

Oh look, the race card.

Ummm, that was already done early in the thread by one of your peers when he used holocaust denail as a basis of comparison to the teacher.