Conservatives Fight Over Islam

NewsMax.com ^ | Feb. 20, 2003 | Wes Vernon

[Howlin]

Stale thread? You mean one that came up on the Latest post page? I didn't realize there was a time limit on when you could post on threads.

You're deconstructing words to defend the indefensible

That's laughable, coming from you. You're defending a person who has now posted remarks on TWO THREADS that have been to be untrue.

And I am NOT the only one who thought he called Bush a traitor. Jim Robinson, among others, did, too, remember?

Frankly, I'm surprised at you; even though I rarely agree with you, I've never seen you FALSIFY posts or make any attemtpt to defend them.

And as I said above, when I see lies, you can damn well bet I'm going to point them out. And he DID lie because he never even bothered to DENY it.

[Mo1]

There are a number of them .. many that were cut& paste articles .. but here is one post in his own words


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/848113/posts?page=36#36
Grover is with terrorist groups and has involved the President by bringing them to the White House. Not to mention the one just busted today was a friend of The Presidents.

[Sabertooth]

Grover is with terrorist groups and has involved the President by bringing them to the White House. Not to mention the one just busted today was a friend of The Presidents.

TLBSHOW is often a blowhard. You're gonna make your hay over a pop-off one liner?

Hey, TLB, are you actually saying that GWB is a personal friend of Sami Al Arian? I thought not.

So. Now...

Let's deal with the actual issue: why are the two of you more outraged by the hyperbolic comments of one Freeper than you are by the terrorist supporters and sympathizers that Grover Norquist is bringing into contact with President Bush and his Administration?

[Howlin]

Hey, TLB, are you actually saying that GWB is a personal friend of Sami Al Arian? I thought not.

Is there an answer from Todd in there? If so, I missed it.

Let's be blunt: he said it; he meant it; he won't even bother to deny it.

And, no, we cannot get past that.....he's all over these boards posting that crap, and we're sick of it. He's a liar.

Like I said, if you chose to align yourself with him, that's your business.

[Mo1]

Hey, TLB, are you actually saying that GWB is a personal friend of Sami Al Arian? I thought not.

You are speaking for Todd now??

Sorry it doesn't work that way

Oh and for the record he has made these charges more then once

[TLBSHOW]

Hey, TLB, are you actually saying that GWB is a personal friend of Sami Al Arian? I thought not.

It should of been


Not to mention the one just busted today was in a picture with The President.

.......

Bottom line is Mr Norquist and why he is such buddies and friends with the terrorist...

look to Norquist. He is the key to this mess as Frank says he is. And like I said he is toast last night on the other thread

.......or he best be.

[Sabertooth]

And, no, we cannot get past that.....he's all over these boards posting that crap, and we're sick of it. He's a liar.

Like I said, if you chose to align yourself with him, that's your business.

There are two reasons why you won't get past it:

1: You have a need for personality conflicts. You generally take them with you from thread to thread.

2: The real issue: President Bush is flat out wrong and ill-advised on the matter of the so-called "mainstream" Muslims to whom he is reaching out. You can't defend it and you know it, so you fall back on the old conflict.

I don't give a rip about my alliances from issue to issue. I'm not on FR to bowbeat cliques. You and I were on the same side and opposed to TLB during the Trent Lott mess; here the triangle bends differently. It may yet again on some other matter next week. I won't change my opinion because of unexpected likemindednesses.

Grover Norquist is the problem child of conservatism. We need to deal with him, or he will bring us yet more grief in the future.

[Howlin]

Oh, now you're a shrink? ROFLMAO.

If you don't mind, I'd rather not be psychoanalyized by somebody who puts a cat on all his posts.

[Mo1]

There are two reasons why you won't get past it:

I can't speak for Howlin .. but I can't get passed it because it was WAY OVER the edge .. uncalled for .. flat out lie and I AM SICK AND TIRED OF IT

[Howlin]

You can speak for me any time!

[Sabertooth]

Oh and for the record he has made these charges more then once

For the record: that's utterly irrelvant.

I don't care if someone in the past has claimed that President Bush has been possesed by reincarnated vegans from the planet Ix. If they can recognize that Grover Norquist is bringing bad, bad, very bad people into contact with President Bush, then they are correct on that particular matter.

Where does that leave you? Do you still want to engage in the points beside the point?

You, me, TLBSHOW, and all the rest are Freepers. We are fleas in comparison to the influence that Grover Norquist and the influence has. He is a dirty dog. Focus on him.

Are you pleased with his sway on President Bush?

[Thorondir]

Hey, man. Sabertooth is one of the good guys. Who cares about the cat, really?

[Sabertooth]

If you don't mind, I'd rather not be psychoanalyized by somebody who puts a cat on all his posts.

No problem. Then you'll have no difficulty from here on out addressing the issue of Grover Norquist?

[Thorondir]

Man, I don't know what is making our otherwise fairly good president kiss up to the iSLAMists, but, whatever it is, I wish he would shake free of it.

Human civilization had better wake up soon and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages of Islam are about our annihilation!
SLEEPING AMERICANS ARE EASIER TO KILL.
Do not be lulled to sleep by the Religion of Peace defenders.

Click here and never forget the face of Islam and what it wants for you infidels.

[Howlin]

Obviously you haven't read this thread. I've already stated my position on that.

[TLBSHOW]

Bottom line as I said Norquist had better be toast. Burnt toast and never ever again be involved with The President. In fact he needs looking into, as his friends are terrorist it seems.

[Sabertooth]

It should of been

Not to mention the one just busted today was in a picture with The President. M

Thanks for the correction. Too bad you didn't make it 250 posts ago.

The issue here is Grover Norquist. Don't give those in denial any extra excuses to go off-topic.