Judge takes swing at war on drugs

Rocky Mountain News ^ | January 29, 2003 | Karen Abbott

[robertpaulsen]

"How dishonest of you to leave out the three sentences that immediately follow that text:"

Not dishonest -- irrelevant to what we were discussing.

Dishonest is 1)ignoring what I did post, and 2) starting a new discussion by only posting the first three sentences. Read the entire opinion, and you'll find that it evolves into an explanation of why the Feds should be allowed to regulate "intrastate' commerce.

[MrLeRoy]

it evolves into an explanation of why the Feds should be allowed to regulate "intrastate' commerce.

It does nothing of the sort.

[Ken H]

You flat out supported an expansive Commerce Clause by saying you believed that Congress should have the power to regulate any intrastate activity that can affect or does affect interstate commerce.

In post #205, you were not quoting. You gave your interpretation to Article I Section 8.

[monday]

"The latest news out of Georgia is they are considering a law that would made it illegal to smoke cigarettes in your vehicle if children are present in the vehicle."

Wonder when the safety nazis will decide that parents are not qualified to raise their own children and the gov't must step in.

How will anyone be able to protest when the authoritarians use the "it's for the children" argument and paints anyone who disagrees with them as a dangerous drug abuser (smoker) who recklessly endangers children?

If you doubt it could happen look at what happens to people who neglect to put their children in car seats or smoke in the same room. Twenty years ago no one would have suspected a parent could be prosecuted for child abuse for failing to lock their child in a car seat.

The world is slowly going crazy before our eyes.

[Ken H]

Here's link http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/832471/posts?page=201#205

[MrLeRoy]

The world is slowly going crazy before our eyes.

And some self-proclaimed "conservatives" are greasing the wheels by arguing in support of federal Leviathan.

[robertpaulsen]

Obviously, when I say "you" I don't mean "you" personally. Is that what you thought? Did you think I was talking about where "you" get your pot? (I thought you weren't a doper, anyway. And if you're not a doper, why would you think I'm referring to you?). Is this how you want to carry on? You want to over-simplify and say, "Oh, RP, how could little ole me affect the system?"

OK, fine. I'm gonna take my ball and go home. I'll save my debating skills for someone who's serious, like philman_36.

[philman_36]

My posts are almost always a response to a question or idiotic statement (more the latter).
Bull puckies!

[robertpaulsen]

The government was propping up the price of wheat by restricting production (just like OPEC). The program made no exception for the growers of wheat to grow additional wheat for their own use. You were allowed to grow X.

Filburn benefitted by that program. But he grew too much. He could have stored it - no problem. He didn't. Therefore, he had to pay a penalty amounting to less than half the market price. He refused.

[philman_36]

I'll save my debating skills for someone who's serious, like philman_36.
You rude jerk! Flag me if you mention me!
I do have to commend you though, you didn't say I'm "series". I'm sure it was an oversight on your part as you used it so effectively before.

[robertpaulsen]

monday, monday ....

Well, could I do it one time?

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Obviously, when I say "you" I don't mean "you" personally. Is that what you thought? Did you think I was talking about where "you" get your pot? (I thought you weren't a doper, anyway. And if you're not a doper, why would you think I'm referring to you?). Is this how you want to carry on? You want to over-simplify and say, "Oh, RP, how could little ole me affect the system?"

You can call me a doper all you like---it doesn't bother me one bit. Who knows? It may or may not apply to me in real life. I was calling myself a "doper" because that's what your side seems to label everyone here on FR who dares speak out against the War on Drugs.

Over-simplify? Mr. Paulsen, you've done a yeoman's job for your side, but quite frankly you've gotten your arse handed to you on this thread. I wish you'd put aside your personal views on marijuana and try to think about this issue as a conservative, and not a die-hard opponent of the Devil's Weed.

[monday]

"Filburn benefitted by that program. But he grew too much. He could have stored it - no problem. He didn't. Therefore, he had to pay a penalty amounting to less than half the market price. He refused."

Generally speaking everyone who do'es business or has anything to do with gov't programs gets screwed eventually. People who do get what they deserve. Call it a learning experience.

[philman_36]

...not a die-hard opponent of the Devil's Weed.
No, no, no...it's Wonderweed!
Think of it...The Cannabis genus is the only known plant in the plant kingdom that produces Cannabinoids.
That truly is a wonder.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

My bad. I got hung up on the Devil's () after hanging out with general_re, xsmommy, and their band of merry perverts.

[philman_36]

No, no, no...
Where oh where has Fred25 gone.
Where oh where can he be.

[philman_36]

My bad.
No problema. It really is a wonder though, isn't it.
The only plant in the plant kingdom...

[Hemingway's Ghost]

No problema. It really is a wonder though, isn't it. The only plant in the plant kingdom...

That's 'cause SATAN planted it, not God! SATAN!

(said in appropriate revival-style preacher cadence and accent)

[tacticalogic]

OK, fine. I'm gonna take my ball and go home.

You should leave the ball. If you take it with you, you might not have to buy another one, from someone in another state.

[philman_36]