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Child killer has proclaimed innocence in cards, visits
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 1/3/03 | Alex Roth

Posted on 01/03/2003 7:26:19 AM PST by Jaded

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To: redlipstick
I am perfectly capable of finding the online info...no need for you to ping me.
421 posted on 01/10/2003 7:04:55 AM PST by demsux
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To: Jaded
See appendix "A" below:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/documents/SCN_20030109150542_001.pdf

422 posted on 01/10/2003 7:13:54 AM PST by demsux
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To: Jaded
The phone call:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/documents/SCN_20030109150608_001.pdf
423 posted on 01/10/2003 7:25:30 AM PST by demsux
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To: demsux
Brenda's statement to police is also up now.
424 posted on 01/10/2003 8:37:23 AM PST by Rheo
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To: Rheo; demsux; UCANSEE2; ~Kim4VRWC's~
ALL of these people are narcissistic amoral upper middle class white trash. They compartmentalize their lives to best suit their proclivities at the risk of all else.


RR was right early on, it would disgust people. Yes, it does.

Maybe this is their road to Damascus.
425 posted on 01/10/2003 9:22:54 AM PST by Jaded
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To: Jaded; cyncooper; redlipstick; UCANSEE2; Valpal1
"ALL of these people are narcissistic amoral upper middle class white trash. "

You know what? The dude (CW) can't even figure out that the phrase "gets off on" also means "excitement, or thrill of the adventure"--it does NOT always mean sexual gratification. The majority of Jerry Springer's Audience are spectators to the disgusting gutter level behaviour of life. They THRIVE on the misery of others. I realize that there is a small percentage of audience members who aren't like that. I could go on and on but I know you know what I mean. It isn't even comparable to people following and discussing the details of trials, news etc..

426 posted on 01/10/2003 9:42:42 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (To educate a man in mind & not in morals is to educate a menace to society)
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To: demsux
So LE let the "trap and trace" order expire on the Van Dam's phone lines even before the girl was found...That is beyond stupid, it's incompetant.

Det. Alldredge felt that the call was "legitimate", but Mudd didn't...go figure.

427 posted on 01/10/2003 10:30:42 AM PST by demsux
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To: demsux
The phone call---

Not only did Mudd think this info. not important to include in evidence, but the SDPD didn't respond to Alldredge's request to (re)install the trap on the DamVan phone, after BVD received the call. Isn't Alldredge an officer for the SDPD??????
It seems like Feldman was stating, for the record, that he asked the Phone Co. to install it (the trap) themselves. Am I right???
Anyways, I can't see how the trap expired after only 11 days, if the trap was installed on 2-3-02 and expired on say 2-14-02. That seems like a flimsy amount of time for gathering infomation in a police investigation of a kidnapping.

Gees, my phone Co. gives me (a month) to log/record all incoming calls, and they record along with me, toward indentification of a harassing caller.


428 posted on 01/10/2003 11:35:21 AM PST by juzcuz
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To: juzcuz
Not only did Mudd think this info. not important to include in evidence, but the SDPD didn't respond to Alldredge's request to (re)install the trap on the DamVan phone, after BVD received the call.

What do you mean the SDPD did not respond. What is your basis for that statement?

It seems like Feldman was stating, for the record, that he asked the Phone Co. to install it (the trap) themselves. Am I right???

No, that is not correct.

if the trap was installed on 2-3-02 and expired on say 2-14-02. That seems like a flimsy amount of time for gathering infomation in a police investigation of a kidnapping.

Remember these tapes we're listening to? Also the forensic testing was well underway by mid-February. The police knew by 2/4 and the failed polygraph that DW was guilty, though the investigation did continue.

In fact, this shows that despite knowing DW was guilty, the call was taken seriously, showing that all information was investigated thoroughly. That's all the evidence has ever shown.

429 posted on 01/10/2003 11:50:14 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: demsux
Det. Alldredge felt that the call was "legitimate", but Mudd didn't...go figure.

I did "go figure". I figured that Det. Alldredge felt an investigation was needed. The results of that investigation we don't know--yet. Obviously Mudd based his decision on the results.

430 posted on 01/10/2003 11:57:20 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
That "go figure" wasn't directed at you.
431 posted on 01/10/2003 11:59:11 AM PST by demsux
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To: juzcuz
Not only did Mudd think this info. not important to include in evidence, but the SDPD didn't respond to Alldredge's request to (re)install the trap on the DamVan phone, after BVD received the call. Isn't Alldredge an officer for the SDPD?????? It seems like Feldman was stating, for the record, that he asked the Phone Co. to install it (the trap) themselves. Am I right???

I am just stumped how you can state the above if you read the document.

Here is the portion that is so clear I am stunned that you accused the SDPD of not responding, and crediting Feldman with the trap being re-installed.

At any rate, here it is, plain as day:

"Based on this telephone call, the San Diego Police Department sought and obtained a search warant permitting the installation and use of a "trap and trace"..."

432 posted on 01/10/2003 12:04:52 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: demsux
I figured I'd clue you in anyway.
433 posted on 01/10/2003 12:06:36 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Thanks a bunch...
434 posted on 01/10/2003 12:11:53 PM PST by demsux
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To: cyncooper
Are you listening to SDPD phone trap tapes??? I'm not.

Those are the tapes I'm referring to. From what I read the SDPD had that/those traps placed on the Vandam phones early on and it/they expired. So, Detective Alldredge requested a retrapping.... because of the call to Brenda on 2-15-02. Feldman learned of the BVD call and trap/time expiration and appealed to the phone co. directly....
435 posted on 01/10/2003 12:13:02 PM PST by juzcuz
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Are you listening to SDPD phone trap tapes??? I'm not.

No. I'm not aware of any tapes like that available for the public to hear. The tapes I referred to that were just released were of DW being interrogated and his polygraph tests and was in response to you saying it was odd the SDPD let the original phone tap expire.

Those are the tapes I'm referring to.

Again, they are not available for public consumption.

From what I read the SDPD had that/those traps placed on the Vandam phones early on and it/they expired. So, Detective Alldredge requested a retrapping.... because of the call to Brenda on 2-15-02. Feldman learned of the BVD call and trap/time expiration and appealed to the phone co. directly....

Where are you reading that?

I assumed you had read the motion filed by Feldman and linked above by demsux. If you did, then you misread them.

The part I posted in #432 is directly from the motion filed by Feldman.

To be clear: The SDPD had the phone trap re-installed.

Not Feldman.

Please explain your source or why you think Feldman would ever be in a position to do such a thing.

Also, please explain why you accused the SDPD of not re-installing the trap.

Thanks.

436 posted on 01/10/2003 12:46:11 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
bump
437 posted on 01/10/2003 1:23:05 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: Jaded
I'd still like to see the transcript from the interview with "viagra boy" Stone...the cop was called to the stand, however a Duseck sidebar cancelled that testimony.
438 posted on 01/11/2003 10:06:01 PM PST by demsux
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To: demsux
I'd like to see the side bars. All of them. What about some of the other interviews?
439 posted on 01/12/2003 6:39:56 AM PST by Jaded
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To: Jaded
Do you know if the court is done releasing documents?
440 posted on 01/13/2003 1:28:00 PM PST by demsux
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